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patchoulipumpkin
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0 posted 2000-01-13 10:22 PM



He said it was when he saw himself
On TV
Channel 40
Face front
Eyes in the camera
That he disappeared

He said he didn’t belong there
It wasn’t where he lived
It belonged to other people
Famous people
Real people
Like Johnny Carson
Lucille Ball
And Gilligan

He was just a guy
With a voice
A guitar
And a song

Whose words became watched
In living rooms
Dining Rooms
Lunch Rooms
Play rooms
Basements
At lunch time
Dinner time
And even at the bar

We all sang
We all knew the song
But he still couldn’t find
His home

He told everybody not to worry
It would turn up soon
He had done this before
Nothing was wrong

We all kept watching him
Watching us
Looking for his home

Nobody let him live there yet
They told him it wasn’t right
You had to do more than that
If you were to be real

But he was getting cold
He’d been outside for too long
And was getting sick
We didn’t worry though
Because he started to feel real

When he finally did
Find his home
We all wanted to hear him
"Tell us all about it", we said

But he never did
He kept it to himself
So we changed the channel
And let him live


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roxane
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1 posted 2000-01-14 12:07 PM


at the risk of sounding cliche, i have long admired nirvana's music, and i think that the world lost a great poet in kurt cobain.
you've written a fitting tribute to him here.  focusing less on the fame, and more on belonging.
it's a good poem.

poetry_kills
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2 posted 2000-01-14 03:06 AM


i like this poem a lot, particularly the ending and the lines "he was just a guy/ with a voice/ a guitar/ and a song" -- i think that expresses cobain's desires for his life very effectively... perhaps i'm misreading the ending, but if i am please dont tell me, i like it the way i read it *stubborn stubborn* and that is that only in his private death did he attain the "life" he had wanted all along... a very powerful piece for anyone who respects cobain or even comes from the era of Nirvana...

sincerely,
**jerome the boy with no brain

jbouder
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3 posted 2000-01-14 09:08 AM


Patch:

I love Nirvana's music.  Cobain was remarkably talented.  But he shot himself and that is my only problem with the "tribute".  Suicide is cowardly and selfish and I have a hard time being sympathetic about something like that.  

A tribute to Cobain's music would never give me any problems.  He was a remarkable talent.  I regret the way in which he met his end but that doesn't change the cowardice of the act (especially when there is a wife and kid in the picture).

I thought your poem was moving and insightful, however.  I especially liked your "Real people/started to feel real" thread that helped tie this thing together.  I just had a hard time getting past my knowing how Cobain died.

 Jim

"If I rest, I rust." - Martin Luther


haze
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4 posted 2000-01-14 10:05 AM


DAMN!

I am here with a hungry sword and you have given me nothing to consume with the blade~

This is a powerful poem, a fantastic tribute with a seismic message! EXTREME KUDOS!


~haze

Kirk T Walker
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5 posted 2000-01-14 10:59 AM


I was drawn to your poem by the title because I enjoyed Nirvana's music, but I also wanted to see how your poem handled the subject.  I think you did a fine job.
J.L. Humphres
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6 posted 2000-01-14 11:15 AM


Patch,
  Being an aspiring musician myself I really appreciate the impact Nirvana had on the early nineties rock scene. No doubt Kurt was a genious, and his death was a terrible tragedy. This poem really puts into perspective what we do, as a society, to the "people" we try to make "deities". If we don't back them into an inescapable corner where the only way out is to end it all; we push and push until the only retreat is destroying themselves with excess. When will we ever learn?
                  J.

Jim,
  I really, adimantly, unquestionably disagree with your above statements about suicide. Cobain was trapped in a loveless mariage, battling addiction, in a band that was in the news daily, and not a happy being to begin with. If anyone was the coward here it was the people around him, and society as a whole; no one took the time to try to help, and in the end we used up one of our greatest icons of the twentieth century.
                   J.L.H.

 Jason
I...I have seen the best minds of my generation...
--Allen Ginsberg

patchoulipumpkin
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7 posted 2000-01-14 04:32 PM


Hi everybody thanks for all of the responses. I just had a couple of quick ones to your statements.

poetry killls-the ending is precisely how i wanted it to be interpreted, that he had found his life, in essence.  Sad, but true.

Jbouder, i, like JL Humphres have to disagree with you about his suicide.  I think everyone who commits suicide has their own reasons, some are good, some are more warped, but they all have a reason.  In many ways, i think when Kurt killed himself he was doing himself a favour in a sense, he was helping himself out of the bundle of pain that he lived with.  

For some people life doesn't work for them..  Either they didn't get the game plan, or they just never learned how to be happy, and often suicide to them, can be merciful and not as selfish, and cowardly as some people think.  To my mind, depending on one's situation, but i will use Kurt's, his suicide was very brave.  He loved his child, and wanted the best for her, but realized he couldn't go on the way he was or else he really would be dead, so in essence he knew his limits, and didn't surpass them.  I' m not saying suicide should be admired as a concept, its a very evil word, but it just is the answer for some people.  And while we hate them for it and think them selfish, for what they took away from us, do we ever ask ourselves what they gave themselves? .  I can only think of the will it takes to pull a trigger, fall of the chair, or slit your wrists.  These are not cowardly acts.  They are very serious acts, that need a great deal of will and resolve to enact.  So anyway, i don't want to get into a debate about suicide but i just wanted to express my feelings, saying mainly that we rarely view suicide with compassion, but often anger, and disapproval.

jbouder
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8 posted 2000-01-14 04:35 PM


Patch:

I'd like to avoid a debate about suicide in THIS Forum but Philosophy 101 is just around the corner.  Maybe this would make for an interesting discussion there.

Just a suggestion.

Jim

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