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0 posted 2006-06-02 11:18 AM


garden worm

I hurt him –

children say they
grow back again,
but
they don’t

it’s only a worm-half
lashing on my
shovel

he it she
they’re all three
I hurt her, hurt
it

shame and
a wish:
they can't
hurt me and

I need them
more
than they need
me


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1 posted 2006-06-02 11:18 AM



For someone here, for anyone here, who needs to understand.


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2 posted 2006-06-02 12:17 PM


I'm always bad at analyzing poetry but here it goes. The fifth stanza:

shame and
a wish:
they can't
hurt me and

really drives it home for me. I'm thinking it's somewhat of a "boy accidentally hits a girl and offers her a free shot to make himself feel better" type of scenario. I'm probably wrong but that's how I took it. And the "I need them more than they need me," threw me off just a little. That line, to me, either corresponds with my previous theory or simply that your garden needs worms to flourish; I'm not certain yet.
     I really like this. The type of remorse in your tone while still retaining a "matter-of-fact" standing is great. Twas a pleasure. Cheers      - Ed

I'm not smart, I'm just a tricky dumb person.

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3 posted 2006-06-02 12:40 PM


Oh yes, the gardener needs worms....they do more actual work than he does, just by being what they are. Without 'em, the soil pretty much goes sterile....but without the gardener's interference and occasional chopping-in-half with his shovel, they do just fine, so he definitely needs a worm more than the worm needs him.

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4 posted 2006-06-02 12:42 PM


Ed...Thinking of worms always takes me to fishing....especially when you have to make pieces out of one big worm because the big one is too much for those little mouth trout.  I know this isn't your meaning though...Sometimes it's just hard to find perfect peace, even within a garden.  
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5 posted 2006-06-02 12:46 PM


....especially when ya keep skronching those helpless little worms.....

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6 posted 2006-06-02 12:54 PM


Ratleader
Believe me they get the last say. LOL

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7 posted 2006-06-02 12:56 PM


Heh-heh-heh.....help us achieve that "oneness with nature".....yep!

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8 posted 2006-06-02 01:05 PM


Got lots of worm experience here; used to dig them for my grandpa for a penny a big one!  Oh, this does bring back memories...
Shall I tell you I dug under the rocks and logs near the barnyard?  'Twas a dirty job, but somebody had to do it!  

Nope, I feel this on a much deeper basis.  I believe we all are one with the universe and everyone/everything affects another in some dstant way.  This is quality writing, Ed, and another piece for my collection.  Your analogies have always intrigued me and make me aspire to become a better writer.  Thank you.

Take care,
misC

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9 posted 2006-06-02 01:11 PM


Ed
I got the feeling the garden worm was you, being torn in half by the two children, he and she...not knowing which side to take, who to repromand, and who to excuse?  I also feel from this, these children are yours, or very close to you, and, could even be the anima and animus of you, but as children go, they are very independent, you needing them more then they need you, and how the connection is so overwhelmingly great, the three parts of you...them, it...life....we are all part of that endearing connection....related

Also, find it quit intellectual of you to entitle the poem garden worm...garden meaning, something your tending...

Probably read to deeply but that is what I felt from this beautiful write of yours.

thank you

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10 posted 2006-06-02 02:23 PM


RatMan~

"I need them
more
than they need
me"


Oh, believe me, I understand it only too, too well~

I'm not the 'shovel', ... just one of the worms~

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11 posted 2006-06-02 02:43 PM


I think that tale of how they grow back has saved many a tear... for to play in fertile soil is to eventually be the instrument of turning one whole into two parts.

With a write that gives respect even to the lowly earthworm, you remind us that even unintentional hurts are often permanent and upset the balance that should be.

All of this... but especially your ending lines... touches me deeply. Superb write!

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12 posted 2006-06-02 03:12 PM


Ed, for me this poem is about a darling little earthworm - no more and no less - a wonderful, but very sad poem from a kind, sensitive, caring person.  Thank you so very much for caring for the he/she earthworm (they are - what's the biological term for having both sexes in one animal?  I have forgotten) and I know you would never have cut the worm in half on purpose - it was a pure accident, but as you imply, that doesn't help the earthworm.  I feel his/her pain and I feel yours.  I am so sorry it happened.  However, I believe that he/she is in Heaven with all God's other wonderful creatures and from there is looking down on you with love and understanding how sorry you are.

- Owl

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13 posted 2006-06-02 03:56 PM


Isn't it amazing?
All the lifeforms that perished beneath your feet on the way to and from the garden...   All the microbes that "died" or "suffered" beneath the shovel.  
The grass, the weeds,
that are also "life"
that were just cast aside.
Without a gasp.  
Without mourning.
Then...mind clings to an object.  
"Ego" that thinks it is "seperate" begins to suffer.  
But the suffering is only due to false thoughts of seperation.  
That which  IS    ALL... Your true essence...is unaffected by any of it.  
It is ONE with ALL things because it IS all things.  
And no-"thing".  
But "ego" that thinks it is seperate...
now clings to thoughts of "attaining" Oneness.  
Which IS already.  
And has always been.  
So the thoughts of "attaining" create more thoughts of"seperation"....
and further "suffering"
LOL   Man!  I love this "Life".

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14 posted 2006-06-03 12:18 PM



You mean they don't grow back? I told my kids they do.

I love the worm poem and it's true:

"I need them
more
than they need
me"

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15 posted 2006-06-04 02:13 PM


How deep this poem was to go, (I love LeeJ's
interpretation), I do not know nor try to understand.  
Just loved the poem.
Because I  love worms!
I am always thrilled when I see them.
When I started gardening in this Florida yard.
I thought it unbelievable that there were no worms.
With great amounts of vegetable and fruit peelings, coffee grounds, and rinds and whatever I could find.
The cafeteria at work was a blessing for a while.
Hair from the  beauty parlor, sea weed from the shore.
Pretty soon my garden began to soar.
We need to tend to these  hard working creatures and see that they are also fed.  
I often wished a worm box to improve what nature sends.
Your poem is wonderful for all the directions it takes. marty

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16 posted 2006-06-04 03:13 PM


I have read this and the fact that both are part of the daily puzzle..
And the puzzle cannot be solved without
two sides working together.

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