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LeeJ
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0 posted 2005-10-11 09:14 AM


W I  F E  becomes a four letter word

So,
you covet sole possession of heart & mind?
in short,
you’ve
created you’re own bloody Monday!

hounds glisten red, over a warm carcass
never fearing change…working as a team

we should be
communication and strolling into something new
letting go of conditioning or need to control

mythical possession & fairy tale dreams
can’t save the world, or offer a good cappuccino
after lunch

if you’re covered in dirt raging war
how can i show you lights collect?
if you don’t see your own & develop them

tell me how you feel
listen to how i focus
Lets both let go of the baggage

real-time and normal speed is not
obsession to control, which  leads to an empty nest

subconsciously calling me a failure
in four letter words…

i own some very intimate secrets
both good & bad, my choice to share
can you allow?

archive for your own personal journey &
coping with the real world
search out your potentials…

my coat realizes the lifestyle it needs
don’t use your problems, fixations, to smother me

entitlement you say?
don’t expect to duplicate your grades
relationships, marriage cannot fulfill your needs
or inflate an ego or compromise dreams

people are people, don’t label my script
a personal attack, it’s the way I believe
loving to joke around, make light of situations
call it a dry sense of humor, don’t take offense?

what doesn’t serve you best, CORRECT

i’ve got to challenge my internal dialogue
live the truth, NOT self delude
there’s no room in my life, for making you complete

your standards for “our” success stands way to high
no one can fulfill that position, look, it’s
waving at me, when i fall on the floor, why?

i want to take risks, move toward a strong nucleus
that gives, as well as receives
I want to take care of your needs, not cuz
It’s my job?

i can’t feel like you, or achieve emotional closure
fulfilling your own self centered matters?
i cannot alter your ideas of some hierarchical fashion
you’ve conjured up about me…

i’m human, with alternative beliefs…
that wish to harmonize with yours…
i’ve felt my visions, looked them straight in the face
have you, yours?

know my potential, and the goals of my journey
don’t place words in my mouth or drain me empty

i’m not your inflated idea of what life should be…
just because our intimacy is presently good~
live a truth
find the passion within you
I’m not your family resolution

don’t stagnate me with jealousy or fears
that i might accomplish something

love is beyond what you might think and believe
it’s simply not a whime of “I’m tired of being alone”

it is not sabotaging or expecting or saving you
from the deepest pits of your own self persecution

it doesn’t own, it lets go…
true love is a solid friendship
that encourages the other to go forward

love is good health in oneself
can independence merge with love?

Because I said something that may have hurt you
You pouted like a child, acted out…jumping up and down....then, got even?~

You’ve made it become a conscious effort
I cannot take responsibility for your choices
Or suffer your anger, your lack of confidence

I’m not a knight in shining armour or
Your princess…
allow me my identity, call me by my name

I'm not some pet you conjured up...or an animal you
can name?

My imperfections…don’t look for an excuse
To wander…no one makes you do things
If it’s not within you to do...
I’m not your mother...
I don’t want to be your family’s crisis
or be told by they're silence, I don't belong
I married you!!!!

You cannot give what you’ve never known
We’re parrots of our parents
Who sometime never fully grow...
and when our relationships fail, instead of pointing
fingers and blamining, it's best to take time off
to really honestly self examine....
Keep kind to mind, the father or mother of your child, respect is learned....


Started as a poem, but then became
Observation, experiences, over the past 15 years
My own, and others…especially observing happily
Married couples that really function as a success…together, allowing each other to prosper, their own individuality....the right to fail...not to sit in judgement with unkind words, but to be there for a hug, and a vote of confidence....the I told you so's are so demeaning..

Successful marriage, are not ones of expectation to bail each other out from under baggage, but those that take no baggage in, nor expect the other to be what they've conjured up in their mind as their soul mate...or savior...God, where does that concept come from...?  Respect, trust and love is earned...over years of growth together...

[This message has been edited by LeeJ (10-11-2005 10:53 AM).]

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nakdthoughts
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Between the Lines
1 posted 2005-10-11 10:46 AM


what can I say...too many words I wish I had written~~~

enjoy how you open up~~

M

Enchantress
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2 posted 2005-10-11 12:31 PM


Lee, you have made some very excellent observations here!
Well said...I enjoy reading you so much.
Hugs~Nancy

~Autumn, the year's last, loveliest smile.~

Martie
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3 posted 2005-10-11 12:35 PM


LeeJ

Poetry IS feeling....and you write them so well.  Brava!!  

Seymour Tabin
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4 posted 2005-10-11 01:11 PM


LeeJ
Successful marriage, are not ones of expectation to bail each other out from under baggage, but those that take no baggage in, nor expect the other to be what they've conjured up in their mind as their soul mate...or savior...God, where does that concept come from...?  Respect, trust and love is earned...over years of growth together...
That about sums it up, good morning sweet.

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5 posted 2005-10-11 02:24 PM


Lee~

'don’t stagnate me with jealousy or fears
that i might accomplish something'


... one of my previous life persons knows this thought all too well~

*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

~*No matter what I search for ...
let me know when it is LOVE that I find*~ <))><

Email - noles1@totcon.com

ice
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since 2003-05-17
Posts 3404
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6 posted 2005-10-12 07:48 AM


­
LeeJ

As your e-mail is not available, I am stating here my thoughts, that I would otherwise send you the cyber way...

There is certainly a poem within...
I have taken the liberty of arranging your words into a somewhat poetic form: hope you don't mind, I was moved to do this by the movement your words caused within me.
*
You’ve created you’re own bloody Monday!
(by not)
letting go of conditioning or need to control
(so)
Lets both let go of the baggage
(stop)
subconsciously calling me a failure
in four letter words…
my coat realizes the lifestyle it needs.
*
What doesn’t serve you best, CORRECT;
there’s no room in my life, for making you complete
(I do so)
.. want to take care of your needs, (but) not cuz
It’s my job
i’m human, with alternative beliefs
and (though)(it is my) wish to harmonize,
I’m not your family resolution
*
Love is beyond what you might think and believe
it’s simply not a whime of “I’m tired of being alone”
it doesn’t own, it lets go…
allow me my identity, call me by my name
I’m not your mother...
We’re parrots of our parents
Who sometime never fully grow...
to really honestly self examine....
*
------------------------------------
When pondering baggage, I think of Wordsworth:

"The Child is Father of the Man"

To which Hopkins answers:

"‘THE CHILD is father to the man.’  
How can he be? The words are wild.  
Suck any sense from that who can:"

I surely can "suck sense" from it....

Even though Wordsworth was not speaking of  parental baggage, in the modern sense, in his poem,...Hopkins was connotating Wordsworths statement as a blast against his own organized religion (Christianity)

You have also sucked some sense from those words by stating:

"We’re parrots of our parents
Who sometime never fully grow
to really honestly self examine...."

The child came first,(physically) and in a metaphorical sense is older, thus being the parent (father)  he is the one who passes on the baggage from childhood...

Wordworth did not want to put the baggage down, he enjoyed the weight, it was a much different burden that he employed, and yet I see parallel...

The weight of parental baggage is carried by the child within,( being the father of the grownup that carries it, seems to make sense in that tableau)  it is this conditioning and personal history that drags us down, and in my mind is the most difficult barrier in the road of self examination...

Others have stated this in other terms.. Don Juan (not the lover, but Castaneda's)

"To be a warier, one must first forget their name" (something of that effect)

The father (parent) (the hander off of the baggage) metaphored here in the word "name"

Hope this makes sense....I sometime  run off at the mouth, but I feel these statement are not going off subject, in my mind, all they are relative, these I feel are not tangents nor spin.

I wish I could make my feelings more clear, perhaps there is some baggage yet for me to unload, and that is impeding my ability to make clear my visions?

Anyway, I did enjoy your "Bunch of feelings"
Thank you for stating them...

--------------ice/ford
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Earth Angel
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7 posted 2005-10-12 08:21 AM


Good morning, Lovely Lee! Your poem gives many points to ponder.

A successful marriage is based on mutual respect.

"I cannot take responsibility for your choices
Or suffer your anger, your lack of confidence"

~ Without respect, marriage can be a very thorny road to walk.

Another fine write. I hope this is not from personal experience, my friend. This aches and is filled with angst and frustration.

You have a fine spirit which is full of spunk! You are woman!

Hugs with love
Linda

HopeS
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8 posted 2005-10-12 09:53 AM




Successful marriage, are not ones of expectation to bail each other out from under baggage, but those that take no baggage in, nor expect the other to be what they've conjured up in their mind as their soul mate...or savior...God, where does that concept come from...?  Respect, trust and love is earned...over years of growth together...


I agree with seymour about the above , yes that sums it up , 36 years marriage for me , we both must be doing it right

Hugs Hope

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