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choshi
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0 posted 2004-05-13 09:53 AM



Your face before me,
is this real or just a dream?
Fever tormented-
moonlight through lace curtains
casts shadows on my pillow.

© Copyright 2004 Paul C. Cooper - All Rights Reserved
Margherita
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1 posted 2004-05-13 09:56 AM


Dear Paul, you paint a magical moment between sleep and wake, when visions are hauntingly clear.
Very beautiful!
Love, Margherita

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2 posted 2004-05-13 10:21 AM


Oh, well done.  I like this!

INclan

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3 posted 2004-05-13 10:32 AM


I have been told that my face is many things, but never have I been told it is a  Waka! lol

To be perfectly honest, I have never heard of this poetic form. Thank you for the delightful introduction!


EA


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4 posted 2004-05-13 10:53 AM


Thank you Margharita for your kindness and warmth.....   ~P
choshi
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5 posted 2004-05-13 10:53 AM


Thank you INclan, I am glad you like....   ~P
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6 posted 2004-05-13 10:55 AM


Thank you EA.....You have heard of Tanka, yes?  Waka was the same way back when. In modern times, they are somewhat different in subjectivity, tone and content....   ~P
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7 posted 2004-05-13 10:56 AM


Choshi~
Lovely thoughts ...~

I was a little thrown by the syllable count
in the fourth line (6)...
though many affirm that the style does not have to conform exactly to the syllabic count to be effective.

Is my understanding correct, that WAKA was one of the earliest forms of Japanese poetry that eventually evolved into the Tanka?

Such a rich study in the word-history of these fascinating forms~
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8 posted 2004-05-13 11:38 AM


"Your face before me,
is this real or just a dream?
Fever tormented-
moonlight through lace curtains
casts shadows on my pillow."
sooooo nice to have you back here again, i know you have been busy, but still...always a pleasure to see your boots at the welcome mat

and this is a little different for you..and i like it very much. i feel longing in this, i can see the shadows of lace on the pillow case...is nice to imagine what you may have been picturing in your mind please, can we have more?

choshi
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9 posted 2004-05-13 11:51 AM


I was a little thrown by the syllable count
in the fourth line (6)...
though many affirm that the style does not have to conform exactly to the syllabic count to be effective.

Ithought of saying "soft moonlight"  or "moonlight shines"  But felt the former a bit much as "softness" is implied in lace and the latter a bit redundant as we know that the moonlight shines...


Is my understanding correct, that WAKA was one of the earliest forms of Japanese poetry that eventually evolved into the Tanka?

There were earlier longer forms, but yes, Tanka and Waka were the early formalized forms of COurt Poetry [500 -1500]Marge Waka and Tanka were originally synonomous w/ the exception that traditional Tanka were written in Chinese and Waka were written in Japanese. Waka means "own language poetry"   Contemporary Waka and Tanka stand apart in many ways so I prefer to use the term Waka....


Such a rich study in the word-history of these fascinating forms~

Marge, Dear.....Thank you for your close and sensitive reading and for your kind comments.

In traditional Japanese, the syllable count for L-4 s/b 7  [5/7/5/7/7].  However, we don't have to be that precise in English.  

     ~P
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sooooo nice to have you back here again, i know you have been busy, but still...always a pleasure to see your boots at the welcome mat  

Awww, Dawn, such a warm and sweet welcome....You are so kind....


and this is a little different for you..and i like it very much. i feel longing in this, i can see the shadows of lace on the pillow case...is nice to imagine what you may have been picturing in your mind  please, can we have more?

Yes, yo udo feel the longing very clearly.....Yes, I did want to leave it up to the imagination of the reader, but you definitely got the picture...when something ripens into awareness, of course you can have more....      ~P
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11 posted 2004-05-13 12:18 PM


awesome...so short but so beautiful
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12 posted 2004-05-13 12:27 PM


i had to come back again and again...so drawn to this..i want to put it in my library
choshi
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13 posted 2004-05-13 12:51 PM


awesome...so short but so beautiful

Thank you Dixie.....I do love the potential for brevity in poetry......~P

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14 posted 2004-05-13 12:52 PM


i had to come back again and again....

Dawn, you know I always love to see you....You are so kind.... ~P

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15 posted 2004-05-13 05:13 PM


Wonderful, Paul.  You said so well in this Waka what I tried to verbalize back in a poem in archives called "Was It My Imagination."  Really well done!   ....jo
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16 posted 2004-05-13 05:27 PM


Wonderful, Paul.  You said so well in this Waka what I tried to verbalize back in a poem in archives called "Was It My Imagination."  Really well done!   ....jo


Thank you Jo.....I really appreciate your poetic sensibility. I am looking forward to digging back and finding your poem.  If its not too much trouble, please send me the link....     Back to you   ~P

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17 posted 2004-05-13 06:32 PM


choshi

Such a soft ethereal feel, sad and tender.  Well done!

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18 posted 2004-05-13 09:51 PM


Such a soft ethereal feel, sad and tender.  Well done!

Thank you Martie,,,     ~P

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19 posted 2004-05-13 10:26 PM




Your face before me,
is this real or just a dream?
Fever tormented-
moonlight through lace curtains
casts shadows on my pillow.

longing and agonizing
over shadows of the nightword
can we ever feel satisfied
without such torment?

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20 posted 2004-05-14 12:24 PM


Came back to read this one more time -- so enjoyed!  (The link is /pip/Forum83/HTML/001538.html )
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21 posted 2004-05-14 01:08 AM


hmmm.... that's an interesting form of poetry.  great write!
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22 posted 2004-05-14 01:18 AM


very intersting and unique way to write a poem...i see you got alot of feedback thats great

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23 posted 2004-05-14 01:33 AM


Your face before me,
is this real or just a dream?
Fever tormented-
moonlight through lace curtains
casts shadows on my pillow.

longing and agonizing
over shadows of the nightword
can we ever feel satisfied
without such torment?

Shadows rise and fall
as do phases of the moon
this passing night-
the pillow remains empty,
orchid petals drop away.

choshi
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24 posted 2004-05-14 01:38 AM


Came back to read this one more time -- so enjoyed!  (The link is /pip/Forum83/HTML/001538.html )


Thank you ~Jo, for sharing the link this one is a poigmamt beauty....~P

choshi
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25 posted 2004-05-14 01:41 AM


Thank you Destiny,

Actually, not so very unique....~P

choshi
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26 posted 2004-05-14 01:43 AM


hmmm.... that's an interesting form of poetry


Thank you AK....~P

iliana
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27 posted 2004-05-14 03:16 AM


The way you expanded the poem was exquisite, Paul.  
choshi
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28 posted 2004-05-14 08:45 AM


Thank you ~Jo, I deeply appreciate your close and careful reading and your comments, especially about expansion...   And, again, thanks for the link to your intensely powerful and heartfelt poem: "Was it My Imagination".  ~P
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29 posted 2004-05-16 10:02 PM


NIce writiing...James
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30 posted 2004-05-17 04:37 AM


wonderful tanka - bravo!
choshi
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31 posted 2004-05-17 10:10 AM


Thank you James....~P
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32 posted 2004-05-17 10:11 AM


Hey, Beki, Good to see you, what a delightful surprise.....and thank you ~P
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33 posted 2004-05-19 08:14 PM


im bumping this because i like it so much, shows a romantic side to you
choshi
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34 posted 2004-05-19 08:59 PM


im bumping this because i like it so much, shows a romantic side to you


Dawn,   Awww, you are sweet....There is more where that came from......coming soon     Back    ~P

ps...I actually did have a fever when I wrote it....

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