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ice
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0 posted 2004-04-24 09:07 AM



Science is thatness
What religion calls thisness,
Zen calls it suchness
         *******
Only finding peace in dreams,
I ask why, must I be asleep
To hear the whispers,
Of the masters in my ear?
*
Awake,I pretend to take
Prayer stones in my hand,
In them seek, truth but know
I won't find it..When asleep
Turn my cup twice, bow and take
Share of bread and tea...
And see through eyes of ancients,
Who live in high nirvanic states
Of perfect suchness.
*
But on rising find my vision
Has gone weak, when awake
Find the lamp of Dharma, out
And I've lost the wisdom
That I've found, thus
Merely raking leaves at bases
Of the many question trees;
Still expecting beings, more supreme
To come and help me cut them down.
*
I turn on the TV...
And wrestle with the emperor,
Who has stumbled up blind alleys
Of religion and morality
That have made him weak; but
His sword is heavy, sharp and long
And behind his fortress walls
Wait many captains, hiding
Listening for his rattle,
Of the locks upon their doors.
*
But the emperor is wrong
Because he shuns his dreams,
Because he still believes
That his waking power, and his creed
Will stay away disasters;
That they state all perfect truths
Found in this and thatness,
And contain the final answers.

© Copyright 2004 ford hume - All Rights Reserved
inkedgoddess
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1 posted 2004-04-24 12:17 PM


chasing circles without clear exits, the night brings visions the day cant see
ice
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2 posted 2004-04-24 01:30 PM


Inky
Yes, there seems to be no clear exits...but then again a zen student should not look for any, nor entrances...something tells me you have run in those same circles...
Thank you for reading.
------ice
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Enchantress
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3 posted 2004-04-24 01:32 PM


Well done...very much enjoyed the read.
Hugs~

To have lived the dream of a love so true...
   is to have seen a glimpse of heaven.

passing shadows
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4 posted 2004-04-24 03:12 PM


ah, yes! This is wonderful! Thought-provoking!
jwesley
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5 posted 2004-04-24 03:15 PM


couldn't agree more...great...jwesley
froggy
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6 posted 2004-04-25 05:46 PM


Ford,
  I like this one.

:-)

Krawdad
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7 posted 2004-04-26 12:15 PM


"Merely raking leaves at bases
Of the many question trees"


and we must feed the trees

enjoyed

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8 posted 2004-04-26 11:41 AM




(big hugggsssssss) And in the not-so-distant future, hopefully November, the emperor will realize he has no clothes and he will experience the shame, the pity, the agony, in his own hubris! (sigh) This is exactly ehat's wrong with our society and why so many are duped; many believe this is a "right" society, no a responsible society. Cultural appropriation is essential in its own means, but when it imbues with split-screen views of what's true and untrue, it becomes the curse of our society! (sad sigh) Mr. Shrub can keep saying what HE thinks is right and treat the lot of us like heretics, but soon more and more will know our innocence! (sad sigh) God Bless You, sweet friend, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Ford, thank you for sharing!



May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

"You'll find something that's enough to keep you
But if the bright lights don't receive you
You should turn yourself around and come back home" MB20

iliana
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9 posted 2004-04-26 11:45 AM


brilliant, Ice!  lol, I had to chuckle at Noah's comment!  
LeeJ
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10 posted 2004-04-26 12:09 PM


stunning, as are all of your writes...very nice read
Sunshine
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11 posted 2004-04-26 02:28 PM



Got caught up in some of your words...
did some research...

it's always good to know that there
are poets
who will help one expand their thinking...

pictureme
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12 posted 2004-04-26 09:35 PM


Hello ice,
I took the time to inhale your poem and
as promised here is my comment.
I like the first stanza alot, it opens the poem well. The following stanzas deliver deep thought. I think the poem is Zen-proud.
In thinking with the perception of things,
I can say.....
Even when I don't totally agree with what you say I love how you say it. :-)
Some refer to Zen as a religion but I tend to think of it more as a philosophy, which is what I feel you delivered.
Keep writing my friend and keep on keeping on!
pictureme :-)


ice
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13 posted 2004-04-27 07:14 AM


Wow! I was uncertain if this poem would appeal to anyone, it seems that it does, its content/theme is odd, I know...but your replies show it has attracted interest..Thank you all so much, as individuals and as a group....all of your words are stored in my heart..
-------ice
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