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JamesMichael
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0 posted 2003-10-18 12:14 PM


What's Her Problem

Sometimes I feel like
she's reenacting the
conflicts she had
with her ex husband,
with me.
I imagine she wanted
him to stick around
and take it, but
he wouldn't, he
finally gave up and
found a woman that
wouldn't push him away.
I think these are basic
human needs; to be wanted
and needed and accepted.
So whats her problem?

James Lee
October16
2003

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BluesSerenade
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1 posted 2003-10-18 12:54 PM


Hard to say, unless you've walked a mile in her shoes!
EvocativeVerse2
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2 posted 2003-10-18 12:58 PM


Ah James what a question. I've been there. Loved someone who one moment said she needed me forever...then in the blink of an eye it seemed she was doing everything to push me away. I read a book that said such things were common. The main ingrediant seem to be fear. Fear of tings turning out like they did before, fear I was not committed to the relationship, fear of getting hurt. I stuck with it. Went that extra mile and won her heart. Hope it works out that way for you too.

Remember, if you're not part of the future, you're history!

Rosebud1229
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3 posted 2003-10-18 01:02 AM


I agree often fear takes hold and your scared of being hurt again, it's hard when the scars may not have been healed from the past. So talking, caring and understanding maybe what she needs for now, just give it time.
SharaRose
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4 posted 2003-10-18 11:24 AM


That goes both ways. Maybe she didn't feel loved by him, and then started distancing herself to sheild against the pain coming from that. It takes two. Like the gentleman above said...sometimes it's worth the extra mile. Just wondering? Why is it always the womans fault?

Terri~


[This message has been edited by SharaRose (10-18-2003 11:29 AM).]

LeeJ
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5 posted 2003-10-19 11:26 AM


You know, it is difficult to climb in someones mind and come to conclusion about them, and when you do, your wrong every single time.  No one does something for one reason, as there are usually many reasons, and until you are able to sit down and talk things over, it's best not to assume...you never know what has happened to a person...and why they do the things they do.  If you can gain her trust in you, perhaps in time she will be able to share what she's been through, but if she does..you must never ever in anger throw things up to her to win an argument...it must be kept most secret and highly confidential...letting her know, that she can trust you and only you with all.  

You don't and will never know what it was like for her to live with him....and sometimes, that's the only thing we have to compare with, is our past experiences, so in a way, your gifted if you will...b/c you have the chance to prove to her, your different...can you, is your relationship with her that valuable and treasured?  Only you can answer that...but believe me....if you can....and are willing...you may have been given the most wondrous gift of gold here...right before your eyes.  It's up to you what you want to do with it.  But...please think things through and don't react.  hehehee, and I say this from personal experience.  God bless you both and good luck.  hugs Lee J.

ethome
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6 posted 2003-10-19 11:46 AM


James
If you could just successfully answer that with a solution then you'd be writing books on the subject.
Some people have such terrible inferiority complexes that they have to take it out on others......Oh what a complicated life we lead......or share......

Eric

Ain't doin nothin at all
Just answerin the call
Kinda driftin away from it all~~~~~

SharaRose
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7 posted 2003-10-19 11:46 AM


Dear James Micheal..I totally agree with Lee J. No one knows what a person has been through. The roads their minds have had to travel. This write seemed a bit intolerant, and judgemental toward the woman, and I reacted to that, but I want to apologize. I spoke way out of line. I only hope you will accept my apology, and all others who have been subjected to my comment above. I expressed myself with an unbridled tongue, and I do apologize to you, and to all. I am so sorry I reacted.
Love,
Terri~

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8 posted 2003-10-19 11:51 AM



James, you've once again asked that question which is so hard to answer - when we all need to be introspective of our own emotions, and our own motives.

Fear?  Possibly.  When someone is rejected, in whatever manner, and has felt the pain of that rejection, they never want to be in that position again.  Evolution of one's mind is what builds up either tolerance, or brick walls.

"She" may indeed have a problem, but who doesn't?  Sometimes people put up those brick walls through their actions, just to see who will scale them, and become the hero [in their eyes].  We never know, do we?

Interesting poem.  Very interesting comments.

A note to SharaRose.  It took a lot for you to come back and issue an apology to James.  Thank you for that.

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9 posted 2003-10-19 04:25 PM


I have to say with all my abuse and ups and downs over the years I've been there. Depending on what she's been through it's hard to say.It's not always easy to live or deal with a woman like this.I know you have patience, strength, and understanding.May it follow you to the ends of the earth.
Crystal

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10 posted 2003-10-19 04:43 PM




(big hugggsssssss) No one should ever know exactly what someone has been through and so I believe we all have problems but we should be able to tolerate them! (sigh) God Bless You, sweet friend, I send angel hugs your way, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet James, thank you for sharing!



May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

I don't need no proof when it comes to God and truth
I can see the sun set and I perceive

***Live***

JamesMichael
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11 posted 2003-10-21 04:14 AM


Thank you all for the interesting responses...I suffered from this problem myself many years ago and it still presents its ugly head from time to time...my primary problem was fear...something like, if I let her know who I really am, she won't like me and she'll leave me...
This was written over frustration from a current relationship...I am considering giving her a copy of this as a conversation starter...haven't decided yet...James

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