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Wisdom vs Knowledge |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space 
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I threw their theories to the lake to watch if they would sink or swim realizing that wisdom superseded knowledge In the exchange of philosophy for life the time had come to put down their words and live my own [This message has been edited by Aenimal (07-04-2003 10:23 PM).] |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
"With all your wisdom, get UNDERSTANDING." (don't quiz me on the book, chapter & verse--grin...with all my understanding? I have not much wisdom.) smiling achoo.  |
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wranx Member Elite
since 2002-06-07
Posts 3689Moved from a shack to a barn |
Put down the words, but keep them close. For they are still a manual of sorts. something to use when your path becomes occluded. Nice one raff! |
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Earth Angel Member Empyrean
since 2002-08-27
Posts 40215Realms of Light |
Yes, we should live as we speak--but it is prudent to keep one's ears open to the wisdom that is spoken by others...  Love & Eternal Light, EA |
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icebox Member Elite
since 2003-05-03
Posts 4383in the shadows |
Catalytic thoughts - well put, Sir. We build upon the wisdom and the foolishness of the past. In the same way, new civilizations build upon the bones and rubble of the past. No matter how profound the philosophies and concepts are when first expressed (or however silly), the thoughts and words of another pass into literature with the author's death. Though the ideas may still have meaning to the living, some of the energy - an intangible, is lost when the originator's life is over. Sometimes too the ideas themselves die; that is the most fortunate characteristic of social fads. In the end, we create our own universe of meaning and opportunistically can use anything picked up along the way. You went and made me think again, and here I had expected just to spend tonight reading poetry and looking out the window over my monitor's shoulder; I can see my neighbors stumbling drunkenly about as they apparently try to set fire to themselves with tiny explosives and sparkling rockets. Thank you. |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
I think I should add that this is not a reference to the bible though you may as well lop it in with the other volumes on the shelf that have shaped or corroded my being. Thanks K Ed they're all there, dusted from time to time to gauge where I'm coming from and where I may be going Of course Linda but you must remember that wisdom is learned not imparted Ice I agree, I've always loved a quote from Bruce Lee in his Tao of Jeet Kune Do. Something to the effect that we should take only what we need from books and throw the rest away..damn the proper quote sounds muuuuuch better but I'm far too lazy to look it up, my books are upstairs ..grin |
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brian sites Senior Member
since 2002-06-25
Posts 1475usa |
Raph..... yes simply yes words read is intelligence words read inside the eyelids is wisdom nice |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
words read is intelligence words read inside the eyelids is wisdom thanks Bri and only you could put it this way poetry is in your veins |
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IntoTheFlames Member
since 2003-06-21
Posts 92Va, USA |
I like what you have to say. Philosophy is basically the opinions of others and ways to trick other people into seeing it "their way" so wisdom would be seeing past all of that. Nice write! |
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1slick_lady Member Ascendant
since 2000-12-22
Posts 6088standing on a shadow's lace |
"I find such ignorance in my knowledge"...and i still do...h |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
and it is wise to follow what mother nature gave us, instinct..that does not need a philosphical mind of dialectic dissertations to be proven adequate in many a case...a wise poem Raph.. at the same time I quite admired the early Greek philosphers from which the basis of modern stuff is all made, some of the classical stuff like from Kant, Schopenhauer, Spinoza and the modern stuff, so not all philosophy is bunk in my opinion. Maybe this is where I picked up some of my pessimism of what we are told to learn as opposed to teaching. Unlike Into the Flames, I don't think philosophers tricked people into seeing things their way as opposed to giving us a chance to see that we could all be reflective about what we do and find a purpose for living. ourselves. [This message has been edited by ecrivan (07-05-2003 01:05 AM).] |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Flames I don't think they set out to trick people with philosophy, that's religion. ahem..I think Philosophy is fantastic but getting lost in can destroy a person Aye H Aye.. No I agree Martin, philosophy is a wonderful stepping stone in human development and evolution of the mind. It's getting lost in them in theories in books that can also stunt that development. One should step back from time to time |
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passing shadows Member Empyrean
since 1999-08-26
Posts 45577displaced |
a very interesting thread here...got me thinking |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
such was what the ancient Greeks intended, they were more concerned with discussion forums than publications of books I think..it's the interpretations that others give on top of what original premises were that can corrupt our thoughts...any way we are still free to examine things with a big grain of salt. |
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inkedgoddess Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-19
Posts 7392Ohio |
wisdom like streetsmarts won't be found in books, some are blessed with both wisdom and knowledge, like you, raf...dont forget that |
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littlewing Member Rara Avis
since 2003-03-02
Posts 9655New York |
Raph: have volumes of my own indeed . . . I always believed that by reading something and taking even a snippet of it and applying that to your life - where and when you need it - serves its purpose. To live by only one way or word or book, would truly quell the beautiful spirit alive inside all of us, especially yours. I too, have lived far too long under the thumb of ???? I cant even really answer that. All I do know is that today, this spoke to me like you will never realize and I thank you. Kind of like an explorer at the helm, future and destination outlined, yet unknown. Good for you . . . makes me proud, but then again - you always do As the man once sang about experience . . . *cheers* here's hoping they sunk always . . . xxoo [This message has been edited by littlewing (07-05-2003 01:58 PM).] |
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Janette
since 2001-07-20
Posts 2843Chicagoland for now |
I hear you loud and clear ... and agree with you whole heartedly. Smart write ... enjoyed. |
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Wind
since 2002-10-12
Posts 2981 |
My friend, this is absolutely brilliant. I'd say more, but my knowledge is not great enough I said I'm going to buy a gun and start a war, If you can tell me something worth fighting for -coldplay [This message has been edited by Wind (07-05-2003 01:59 PM).] |
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Wind
since 2002-10-12
Posts 2981 |
My font was blue? how'd that happen? I said I'm going to buy a gun and start a war, |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Thanks Dix hope its the good kind of thinking Ecrivan i prefer a pint of beer to a grain of salt grins cheers Mish how can i forget when you always prop me up like that..thanks n hugs Thanks Sue yer too kind to me..well sometimes..i guess..grins Thanks Janette glad yu enjoyed it Wind thanks for both replies and compliments whatever colour they may be in |
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littlewing Member Rara Avis
since 2003-03-02
Posts 9655New York |
. . . can I retract my statements? yw *gritting teeth* |
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Honeybee Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-26
Posts 5372Ontario, CANADA |
A brilliant write, Raph...okay, I have a new favourite now. I'm slowly starting to learn this, although I find that wisdom is all too sobering and unkind sometimes, then again, it's better than a regurgitated knowledge taught to everyone... good for you for realizing and this poem gets a DAMN!  Melissa~ Intellectually I know that Canada is no better than any other country. Emotionally I KNOW that Canada is the best country in the world! |
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peppermint35 Senior Member
since 2000-05-28
Posts 1106Texas, USA |
I truly enjoyed this read as it made me think; something I believe at times we do far too little of (although at present, I may be doing too much of it.. lol).. very, very seriously, a great write. Pepper |
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Ratleader
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass |
Yes -- knowledge versus wisdom, fact versus truth.....so easy to confuse one with the other, and so damaging to each! Well said, my friend. ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸ ¸¸ºº> ~~~(¸¸ER¸¸ºº> |
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Patricia Member Elite
since 2003-04-06
Posts 2160Missouri |
Yes, you should live by your own words; however, do not let your philosophies cast you in stone. I know this man whom I adore, but he is hung up on his own philosophy and is unwilling to let another's word touch his life. In my discussions with him, I have seen moments of revelation with something I had said. I truly thought I effected some changed for him. Because of some issues (mainly my issues) I had not seen him for a couple of months. We got together a couple of weeks ago and it seems he still clings to those same philosophies, going back to his rudimentary ideas, never willing to accept another's point of view. So, yes live by your words...but don't forget that we are here to help each other through this journey and others may just have something worthy to say. I don't mean to preach, Aenimal. This is just my humble opinion. And I do believe it is important not to live as a sheep, following blindly. I thoughtfully consider others' words and see if I can perhaps learn a new way. This is an excellent piece of writing...very thought provoking as you can see by the lengthy reply. I am better for having reading it. Thanks, Patricia |
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Wind
since 2002-10-12
Posts 2981 |
well I'm writing in yellow now, and still like your poem whatever color it is in. LOL (Hehe... try your wisdom vs. my knowledge) I said I'm going to buy a gun and start a war, |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
whether or not they sink or swim, some ideas will eventually seem to be worth more than others loved this write, Raphael, the artist within you is a beautiful sight |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Sue no statements are already in play no take backs Ah the prized Melissa Damn award. grins Thanks always love when you write..not always when yu talk though..  phbltkidding Thank you peppermint appreciate it! Thanks Patricia and yes I know alot of people like this in fact it was inspired by someone recently who seems lost in them thanks for the read and lengthy response Liz I love your responses grins Ah Kacy seeing you respond is always a beautiful site, thanks and hugs |
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gemjop Member Elite
since 2002-11-18
Posts 2587Pencilveinia, USA |
I am lacking in both wisdom and knowledge. Grrr. Loved this sir. ha, did i call u sir? that must mean youre wise. love ya raphy! |
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littlewing Member Rara Avis
since 2003-03-02
Posts 9655New York |
I had my fingers crossed when I typed the original lines . . . |
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dreambuilder Member
since 2003-03-23
Posts 319caddyshack |
the time had come to put down their words and live my own nice - sounds like you learned one of my secrets the shopping cart method I take what I need or want & leave the rest you can always go back if you forgot something but only you can decide what should go in your cart . . . all that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream . . . |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Gem I've talked to you i KNOW you're lacking in both..rflmao phblllllt Dame Gemma Sue gotta be hard typing with your fingers crossed lol Yup Dream and other times I just get in the cart and race down the aisles screaming weeee until i fly into the canned foods.. |
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