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25 posted 03-06-2008 01:11 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

We love you too, Juju!
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26 posted 03-06-2008 01:13 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

We love you too, Juju!
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27 posted 03-06-2008 02:49 PM       View Profile for oceanvu2   Email oceanvu2   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for oceanvu2

Grinch:

There seem to be no final stories
Without concommitant a-priories,
Nor need to bull-ride sacred cows
While living our infernal nows.
Vita's brevis, ars is longa;
What doesn't save us makes us stronga.

What's the difference between absurdist and nihilistic viewpoints, he asks, keeping this in the realm of philosophy...

Jimbeaux
  

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28 posted 03-06-2008 03:32 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

This house has many mansions, I have come to realize
The absurd nihilistics are not well hidden from my eyes
Since I know my way around obstructions they are rare
I'm blind, I cannot see the traps you set before me there
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29 posted 03-06-2008 04:19 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

I'll offer a suggestion if you'll hear a simple song
The Truth of art is very short, the battle very long
The pace of Time I'll give you, it's quite up to you
Though the snake is long it winds up strong anew.

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30 posted 03-06-2008 04:21 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

This mansion is like a stable
To those here who are lame
Some are pulling heavy loads
Stringhart brings you shame
Loving care,  brighter roads
Will help relieve  the pain
Exercise,  and diet too can  
Help release your strain
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But you're right in a certain sense
time is short, True art is timeless
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32 posted 03-06-2008 04:37 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

2UoceanU2,

My  Double-edged Sword of Truth can do the surgery
Stringhalt Excise Quick Relief for Self Inflicted  Injury

call littledavid 911

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33 posted 03-06-2008 04:50 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

Beggar me this oceanvu2
Where and whom is this Grinch
You address your post to?
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34 posted 03-06-2008 05:46 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

oceanvu2:

A limerick forwhichtobestya
Xanthopan morgani predicta!
Et ne nos indicus tentationam
Sed libera JohnHolmesesque
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35 posted 03-06-2008 07:08 PM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

A finite man of finite means
who will not see beyond his genes
disbars all transcendental claims
making foolery of celestial aims
And yet desires to live in spite
of a looming everlasting night
in which no bride and bridegroom dance
and dearest things are naught but chance
And reason becomes a crazy wh*re
made worse by feigning there was more
Where purpose is a charmerís potion
and love itself mutated motion
So will the moon give warmth to him?
From where does lunar brilliance stem?
If not the Son then tell from whom
comes light and life to vex the gloom?
And why do our internal things
chafe so against those ponderings
which figure man the sum of parts?
God put Eternity in our hearts.



"No Big Story" is probably the most ambitious meta-narrative I know of.        
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36 posted 03-06-2008 07:23 PM       View Profile for oceanvu2   Email oceanvu2   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for oceanvu2

Hi Stephen --  I agree completely with the first six lines.  But I don't suppose that's really meeting you half way.  I also think that's one of your best poems ever.    


Little David:  Grinch is the Englishman you met on page one of this thread.  And your last post above is truly witty!  

best, Jimbeaux    

For some reason, my keyboard started acting erratically, and didn't see the letters that were missing in the initial post.  But then, I don't see much at all.

[This message has been edited by oceanvu2 (03-07-2008 03:16 PM).]

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37 posted 03-06-2008 07:31 PM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

Jim,

Thanks.  I think that was a compliment.  

Stephen
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38 posted 03-06-2008 10:43 PM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

Jim:
quote:
What's the difference between absurdist and nihilistic viewpoints, he asks, keeping this in the realm of philosophy...


It could be said that nihilism is a response to absurdism.  If one is true, the other seems to follow.

On a personal note, I can appreciate absurdism, because it can be taken partially rather than universally.  There are absurd aspects of reality, and yet there can be hope for some answer or resolve.  That's why I appreciate Dostoevsky so much.  He was an absurdist I could tolerate in that he placed absurdity in a larger telos of God's plan ... and yet his works have never glossed over the less "photogenic" dimensions of life on Earth.

For this reason, the "Frenchies" (Sartre, Camus) and Kafka didn't appeal to me so much.  Personally, I think it takes some light even to appreciate the darker vales.


Stephen
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39 posted 03-06-2008 11:12 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

Life is the liveliest state of death
And death the deadliest state of life
Thro which is blown the angel's breath
An endless peace with endless strife.


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40 posted 03-07-2008 12:29 AM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

2u oceanvu2
I appreciate your comment!
  For proprieties sake I'm demure
and if stricture prohibits unsure
I wanted to say(hope it's not too risque)
'her gargantuan proboscis wilickya'
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Stephen:  It was a compliment.  Its fun to dial back the intensity at times.  Sometimes, for me any way, when you talk about big things in a smaller way, it's easier for me to follow.  I recall that despite his, ah, ungainly appearance, Sartre was a chick magnet...

ESS:  Does the notion of yin/yang fit with monism?  Your ditty seems to imply that.  Great ditty!

Little David"  I'd change "lickya" to "tickleya" which is physiologically likelia.

This is a great "coffee house" thread.

It's fun when one sits,
Like Boswell, with wits.
There's much being said
By the lively undead.

The above lines are a philosopical statment to keep the post appropriate.

Jimbeaux
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Jim,

Thanks.  
I never studied monism and rarely use the term, so I am not sure if yin/yang fits into that belief.  Stephanos may probably know the answer to that question.


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43 posted 03-07-2008 08:45 PM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

Jim,

Where's the coffee then?  I want some.

Stephen
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I was just trolling along this web-site when i came across your bullutin. And i dont think your retarded. Your pretty sharp (like a tack). And people who say ugly words are just insecure with themself. They need to hurt someone else inorder to feel better about them self... I know cuz i use to be one of these people. but i changed my evil ways and become a person just like you. And dont listen to what they say. its not true unless you beleve it is. Also you might be slow at times but then again "arn't we all at times?" We all can be "retarded" when we're not thinking. Trust me i do this all the time. i dont know why though...

i guess somedays the brain needs to shut down for a while to rest and recollect are thoughs and idea's

So in my summary im gunna say. "Don't let people bring you down. And if they do just get back up and keep climeing"

Have a great day!!

~Zach~  
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45 posted 03-09-2008 09:24 PM       View Profile for Joe Crow   Email Joe Crow   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Joe Crow

"Someone called me a 'retard' yesterday.

It may have been the nicest thing he could have called me, under the circumstances, I don't know.
I know I truly felt the power of a word.

This is my first post here.
I hope to learn what I should have learned long ago.
How to write what I feel and think and know (what very  little that is) and not be misunderstood.
I am slow, that is for sure.
But I am also consistent.
I will read all I am able to read and understand here. And then, someday, I will return and practice on you, if you will listen and be as understanding as my latest critic.  

Thanks for the welcome!

david"

Doesn't retard mean to be held back? It seems your friend was trying to help you unless he missed his mark. I'm doubting he missed it though and the statement about learning what you should have long ago only seems to strengthen the point. Agreed?
                           Joe Crow
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46 posted 03-10-2008 11:53 AM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

Thank you Zack!!
With friends like you leading the way I'm sure I'll reach the peak someday!

Joe Crow
Very much agreed Sir!
Endless thanks for all your kindness and support.
I'll be keeping an eye out for more of your kernels of Wisdom to plant wherever I go!
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47 posted 03-10-2008 03:51 PM       View Profile for littledavid   Email littledavid   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littledavid

Here's 2u oceanvu2,

what do you think of
'her gargantuan proboscis wiltickleya' ?

cuppa Joe anyone?
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