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Huan Yi
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At what point in American history did
Presidents become executives not to be trusted
and instead those to be suspected of malicious intent?

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For started with Nixon, maybe even Johnson.  But I heard relatives complain about what FDR did.  Probably started back with Woodrow Wilson or who maybe even Lincoln.  Certainly, the Southerners were not happy with his politics.  

Isn't it a given that power is not to be trusted....ever?
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From the beginning,

Washington #1:"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." Which doesn't exclude presidents & I'm sure many feel the General's wig was crooked (but he didn't wear one). & "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force...Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." Presently, some get 4 more years & or a pardon from it all. Imagine that.

Adams #2: "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." I wonder why he wasn't well loved.*sarc*

Jefferson #3: "Free government is founded in jealousy, not confidence.... Let no more be heard of confidence in men, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitutions." & "I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people…" Ya gotta give Jefferson the charismatic medal of eloquence in his offerings.

& one of my my favorite quotes on politics, in general, comes from President Adams' Great-grandson, Henry Brooks Adams--the U.S. Historian.

"Politics, as a practise, whatever its professions, has always been the systematic organization of hatreds."

all on wikiquote.

I would think that most begin building a portfolio on presidents' mal-intent when they fail to stand up to their word.
U.S. Presidents should come into office with an absolute knowledge that they better be A People of Their Word or else suffer a loss of  trust from those they lead. Human to human relationships, friend to friend, requires such, why would it not be expected from POTUS?
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