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What is Man? Mark Twain for Drauntz

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Local Rebel
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0 posted 06-21-2007 09:18 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

and anyone else interested in further 'rational self interest' reading.
http://ww3.telerama.com/~joseph/wman.html
Drauntz
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1 posted 06-21-2007 09:51 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

Thank you, Sir  Local Rebel. I'll read it and post my thought.

have a wonderful evening!!
Drauntz
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2 posted 06-22-2007 03:11 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

I am still reading.
The old man's view on human characters based on the rocks are not acceptable to me. You know, I know,  that human characters are richer and more colorful than that.

Last time when you dropped 4 names , i had to go to book store at night to flip through Greenspan's biography. now, Here come another assignment. But you do not give out a scholarly look at all by your photo.  for the best "the most wanted" if I might say. You may need a suit and tie style or something like that.
rwood
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3 posted 06-22-2007 03:51 PM       View Profile for rwood   Email rwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for rwood

Oh, that's just rich.

Now she's judging photos.


That's no way to thank a man for helping you.
Brad
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But it speaks volumes.

Drauntz
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5 posted 06-22-2007 05:13 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

Sir Brad,

thank you very much.  A picture indeed is worth of ? words as you use words of volumes.
Brad
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6 posted 06-22-2007 05:17 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Huh?
Drauntz
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7 posted 06-22-2007 05:21 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

trapped!   (on talking about Local Rebel's photo)
Local Rebel
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further help;
www.google.com

much closer than your bookstore and it's open all nite

oh... and I assure you, nobody wants me...

Brad wasn't talking about me.
Drauntz
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9 posted 06-22-2007 06:44 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

of course he was not talking about you. You are in the same team, sir. he tried to bad-mouth me. I changed direction and made him a "Huh."
I won.  
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10 posted 06-22-2007 06:49 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

Sir Local Rebel,

"and I assure you, nobody wants me"

....because all your friends are busily reading Rand's rational self-interest.
Brad
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Well, a couple of years ago, my daughter and I would set up the chess board and I would try to teach her the basics of the game. After about five minutes or so, she would pick up a random piece put it on a random square and scream, in Korean, "I won."

All of this seems mysteriously familiar to me.

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Ron was right--you are the cute one!

*laughing*
rwood
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"because all your friends are busily reading Rand's rational self-interest."


Yep, we are. So? Where's Yours?
Drauntz
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14 posted 06-24-2007 07:04 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

The old man considered  that Human was machine
.....Wrong. Human has love and other feelings. And human have the ability to produce off springs.

The machine(human)  is worked  solely from outside.
.......Wrong. Temperature can make egg a chick , but not pebbles .

Whatever a man is, is due to his Make.
.....Wrong. If he thought that that the man is made then he would know that he was granted free will.

Braveness is with born.
.....wrong. True braveness is from wisdom.

Self-interest
.....If the old man thought human was machine, then there should no interests, self or rational.

Sacrifice
.....The old man denies that human has love.

Every credit to God
.......wrong. If he believe God, the he no doubt believed  that there were devils.

The conflicts of the old:  
1. if he thought human was operated solely from outside, why bring in the –self interest concept?
2. if he mention God, why he did not mention devil?
3. he made the youth think that there were a you and a your brain. You and your brain are the same thing.
4. inside-outside….biologically, to every receptor there is a ligant. And human body have build-in mechanisms...such as the self-clean function of the immune-system.    

So the old man was a sly liar and the young a dumb.


 
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