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Huan Yi
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What are the rights of a given society
over individual morality?


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Laws?  
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Asides which, what does this have to do with Dorian Gray?

Naturally, I am assuming Dorian Gray is literally based, not factually, as writ by Oscar Wilde.
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In the story, Oscar Wilde
asserted that for the talented, the rich
or simply beautiful, the standard moralities
did not and should not apply.

And in historical fact has it not been shown
to be true, accepted, if not defended
by some significant portion of the main,
(JFK, actually many Kennedys, princes
princesses, kings and queens)?


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If anything, aside from slaughtered haikus seen above, Wilde's prose is a moral which you are affecting on life.  Yes, it is a moral about vanity and the cost thereof.  Your point?

In case you missed it, watch Steve Martin's L.A. Story with a lyrical eye.  The 'graveyard scene', taken from Shakespeare's Hamlet, should give some perception into the age-old battle of true age verses visible age, and the steps the vain undertake to prevent being true to themselves.

Some people age very gracefully.  The rest of us sods age with the help of vitamins, herbs, salves, ointments, spas and medical proceedures, to the best our personal budgets/credit can support, in order to 'look our best' before the undertaker's assistant plops that first shovel of damp sod upon our overpriced casket as we become egalitarian.
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Alicat,

If you read the story itself
you sense that the ending in which
Dorian suffers his fate was really slapped on
perhaps to get it past the censors.

Oscar himself pretty much practiced what he preached
and never seemed to catch on even while in jail
that he had done anything wrong.

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