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Very Well, What is Poetry?

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oceanvu2
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100 posted 04-20-2007 10:22 PM       View Profile for oceanvu2   Email oceanvu2   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for oceanvu2

Edster, my God!  You have a sense of humour!  Yet another fabulous dimension!  I've said before that you are probably a wonderful human being.  I'll expand that now to suggest you probably don't beat your wife or partner, and rarely chase after little children!

As to the below, and bona fides:


"On the other hand, I'm a pretty sophisticated reader, the type, I think, you want to reach."

Can I take your word for that? Do you have the Sophisticated Reader's Club Member card?"

I am in fact a charter member of the Sophisticated Reader's Club, #0014.  Unfortunately, the numbers only go up to 0019, so it's not a BIG club.

I can offer some reasonable bona fides regarding sophistication: I survived Viet Nam, I survived Duke's Stage 3 colon cancer, I've been through three wives, and I don't like Budweiser.  How many people can say all that at once?

Actually, your post was insightful and to the point.  I'll just go look at the work again.

Jimmy  

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101 posted 04-21-2007 03:20 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

You know what? I like you. And I usually don't say that to new people, hehe. You have a quite a sense of humor as well Jim, or should I say #0014, hahaha. Ah, you crack me up number fourteen!

"I'll expand that now to suggest you probably don't beat your wife or partner, and rarely chase after little children!"

Actually Jim, my wife beats me, with a cudgel mind you, a spiked cudgel... very painful. No, I'm only recently legal to vote let alone get shackled to another human being, haha. And yes I only rarely chase children (Mostly on Easter to steal their candy).

"I survived Viet Nam, I survived Duke's Stage 3 colon cancer, I've been through three wives, and I don't like Budweiser."

I think we're going to be good friends Jim.
Edward Grim
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102 posted 04-29-2007 08:28 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

Christian Talks:

"Is it my fault that I don't get what you write?"

I believe so, yes. Would it be Derrida's fault if a twelve year old didn't get his Deconstruction theory? No. Is it Shakespeare’s fault if someone doesn't get why Romeo had to kill himself? No. Is it Einstein's fault if someone doesn't understand his relativity theory? No. The fact is, I say it is your fault for not understanding because my targeted audience does "get" what I write. If no one "got" what I write, then I'd reconsider my views but that is not the case. So yes, I believe it is your fault. Sorry.

"Can writer's continually blame reader's for not "getting" what was written?"

If the reader isn't qualified, then yes they can. Why should writers simplify their work so every Tom, Dick and Harry will understand? No sir, I will not dumb down my work so the masses can understand it. If Einstein and every other great thinker (I'm not comparing myself to them, I'm just making a point) simplified their theories then we'd live in a darker place. I'm sorry I can't accommodate your level of reasoning.

"what do you owe me as a reader? Clarity, invention, modernism, antiquity, SENSE?"

I owe the reader all that and more my friend! But if the reader has none of the above to start with, then what is a writer to do?

"why write?"

If you have none of the above, then why read? If you don't like Fritz Lang films, then why critique Fritz Lang's films? If you don't understand his movies, then don't watch his movies. If you don't like my style, then don't read it. Clearly my style eludes you and I'm sorry for that but there is really nothing I can do about it. You are a more traditional writer/reader and that is something you have to deal with, not me. I don't critique "roses are red, violets are blue" poems because I don't understand their use or the writer's message. I stay away from those poems because they don't interest me and quite frankly waste my time.

Thanks for the reply!

Head Cheese & Chicken Feet

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