Greenville, South Carolina
“We already have language, and that itself is a symbolic medium.”
I’d like to see you write poetry or anything else without language. It’s not a symbolic medium; it’s a necessary medium. Without it, there wouldn’t be poetry or writing at all, let’s not forget that. But can we not write in different languages? Or different forms of the same languages?
“We already have ideas.”
So we should recycle them incessantly? I’m sick and bloody tired of people idea harvesting and not trying to come up with their own ideas. Yes, we already have ideas; but let’s think up new ones shall we. I want new ideas damn it! I’m sick of re-runs in the movie theater and John Grisham novels! I’m tired of poeta that write the same crap as everyone else! Why can’t we be different? Why can’t we find our own voices?!
“I tell you that is the strengthening and familiarizing with form and structure, not freeing and unfamiliarizing for "originality".”
Writing is bull without originality. What the hell are we writing for if not to encompass our work in something that we can call our own? Otherwise, writing would be stale, no matter format it’s in.
“As long as poets wallow in this "I want originality, individuality, freedom" pit instead of fastening themselves to the foundations that made poetry strong, familiar and sucessful in the first place, they will never be able to write very strong poetry again.”
I hate attitudes like that Ess, sorry to say, but I do. Yes, that format worked and still works (with talent) but that doesn’t mean another form is inferior to it or superior to it; it’s just another form, like film and video. I’m interested, why do you put down originality? Do you realize that without originality your work is a collection “been there, done that?” Where is the joy in reading if everyone writes the same crap?
”I don't care how much talent one has writing poetry”
Right there, you’ve defeated your entire point. Talent my dear friend, is everything. Without it the writer is defunct and the words produced are a waste of ink.
“Any and every other writer can do that.”
I disagree. On the contrary, it is anyone who can make a poem rhyme and be traditional. Almost every single poem on this site is traditional and practices rhyming. It’s sickening. It is hard to plunge into freeverse and pull out something good. Not ‘any and every other writer can do that.’
”Of course it is. People can't remember how to write good form verse when they wallow so much in the flood of freeverse we see today.”
Well Ess, I made it bad on purpose. Lol. I was giving an example at how I see traditional poems today. Believe it or not, I’m quite familiar with Shakespearean verse. I’m actually writing a play that is reminiscent of Shakespeare’s language and time. Yes, I suppose you could say that freeverse has become a “flood”, most likely because it’s new. Freeverse is just another form of writing though; one cannot say that it is better or worse than other forms.
”Sorry I didn't address all your point.”
It’s cool dude.
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