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Huan Yi
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Can a good thing
be the wrong thing
because the price is too high?


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The answer here requires an assumption of agreement on the definition of value.

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Let one's own life;
the benefit or loss to it
be the value.


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3 posted 11-03-2006 09:11 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

If that's the case, then pond ripples from a toss of the stone need to have a vote.

(and hey...just 'cause I'm mildly disagreeing doesn't mean I don't see your point. But? *shrug* Mercury and Saturn are retrograde...speaking of rings and repercussion. )
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Yes.

Provided it is inherently understood that neither the good thing nor the bad thing are capable of determining the price. Not only do the ripples need to have a vote, but theirs are the ONLY votes that can count.
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No.

The evidence of a good thing being good is in that good thing itself and how it helps life.  If it is truley a good thing, it is so whether or not the price is.

The evidence of the bad price being bad is in the price and how it mistreats someone or something involved.   If it is truley a bad price, it is so whether or not the thing being sought is good.

I think it is a mistake to confuse the two.

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What brought this in general
was my approaching the end of
“Paris In the Terror” by Stanley Loomis.
For those who were around Ropespierre
in 1794 and saw the wrong being done
the question was not so abstract and
the answer if it was to be among the first
to speak out would have often fatal consequences
not only on oneself, (this in a New France
that renounced religion and it’s hopes as superstition),
but one’s loved ones as well; all without confidence
of any worthy outcome to the effort.  You could just
as easily imagine the question in the Soviet Union
of Stalin.  And on a less grand level the question
applies to certain acts of “love”, “compassion”, or “charity”;
are not such acts to be measured in the prospect
of possibly irreparably damaging one’s own life
and thereby chances of happiness to no avail?


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