~ I really do believe things are simpler than what others would want us to believe.
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing ..."
~ That agrees with Psalms and the dead not being able to praise God. How can one say that the Bible doesn't mean what it says at the face value unless one attempts to twist the passages to suit his/her denomination?
The dead know nothing. The dead do not praise God. From dust thou art and from dust thou shall return.The soul that sins is the soul that dies.
~ If a child happened upon these verses, without any influence from other sources, that child would know that one doesn't live after death in some sort of "separation." Again, if death meant to merely separate, than why wasn't this word used?
~ Surely, if the author who quoted the soul that sinneth is the soul that will die meant to SEPARATE, he would of said PARAD! He didn't. I think he knows the difference.
~ Now onto Samuel the prophet and Saul. Why would God give up Samuel's spirit to the soothsayer when God said He would not answer him through an medium, of course the use of a medium is an abomination to the Lord, but since the spirit of Samuel returned to God upon death, how could the soothsayer get ahold of it?
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."
~ It is quite clear that Samuel's spirit returned to God, I guess He said He didn't want it. LOL
~ Now Paul compares death to sleep, and I am not going through that again. When one sleeps, one does not know of the passing of time, nor can one praise God. The soul of a human being merely means the life of the human being, or a dead animal for that matter, and does not mean a Plato (et al.) pagan doctrine of an immortal soul.
"And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground,"
~ Notice man was not formed after anything but from dust of the ground. No immortal soul was put inside him. In fact, HE BECAME a living NEPHESH.
~ That same NEPHESH is referred to as living or DEAD ANIMALS too.
~ The meaning of nephesh is a broad one, and so expected after so many years of influences on the word.
properly, a breathing creature, i.e. animal of (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental):--any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead(-ly), desire, X (dis-)contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart(-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortally, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-)self, them (your)-selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.
~ When Christ said to fear Him who can destroy both BODY and SOUL in Gehenna fire, is often misinterpeted. It is rather simple: Don't fear a human who can only kill you from your earthly existence (body), but fear Him who can destroy your LIFE - the 2nd death, in the Lake of Fire.
~ This specific passage about Samuel has to be looked at for what it is - a spirit resembling Samuel. Unless, God decided to give Samuel's spirit to Satan, which is silly. In the Acts of the Apostles, Peter states that even David is still dead and buried:
"Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day."
~ Whatever David is, is dead and buried. Not David's body, but DAVID, HIMSELF, the ENTIRE David. And it makes perfectly good sense that if David was dead and buried so was Samuel.
~ A test from the true Spirit of God, for sure.
"Melvin, the best thing you got going for you is your willingness to humiliate yourself."