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Huan Yi
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You ever read something that changed you view of
a historical person/event, (examples: Spartacus was around
twenty-seven when he died ; Confederate control of Andersonville
prison was significantly facilitated by Union informers within the
camp itself;  Jews rounded up Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto for the trains
that took the latter to their deaths;  Ann Rutledge, the young woman Lincoln loved
died before they were married, while Mary Todd the woman he
did subsequently marry was known to scream at and chase him with
a broom).

serenity blaze
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Yawp.

Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States"

Pretty much every chapter blew my mind.

OH. And this one I'm reading now, too:

"Mothers of the South" Portraiture of the White Tenant Farm Woman by Margaret Jarman Hagood
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How about the Discovery of America?

Archaelogical evidence, and books like Grænlendinga saga and Eirik's saga, even maps, and other things, tell us that the Norsemen were coming to and fro America about five centuries before Columbus, but most people still think of Columbus first when they think of the discovery of America.  I recommend the book Vinland sagas (that includes Grænlendinga saga and also Eirik's saga) to anyone interested in the discovery and attempted colonization of America (called Vinland "Wineland") by the Norsemen.  Its a good translation and commentary.


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Here is an interesting little documentary about the Vikings in North America.
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When I was a teenager, It was the book of Biography of Duncan strucked me.  She was such a free spirit lady and I thought, wow, one should just live like her. She  married Lord Byron and chased Berbard Shaw for his saying "what if our children get my body and your brain?"

Then Bible brought me back to earth 15 years later.
Brad
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Benjamin Franklin.

What I learned made me respect the man more.

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Learning that Lord Randolph Henry Spencer Churchill died of syphilis was kind of a bummer.

Best, Jim
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Looking at your posting here, especially about the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, I was reminded of John Hersey's Book The Wall.  A novel, but one that was fairly well researched.
I don't think anybody's about to let the nazis off the hook for that one.  

     As for something changing your mind about how the Jews reacted to the Warsaw Ghetto when you found out that Jews helped with the roundup, I'm unsure I follow.  Any suffering I've done in my own life hasn't exempted me from to foolishness in my own life, nor has it granted me any nobility of character.  If I'm lucky and I work at it, maybe I gain some empathy for the suffering of others and maybe maybe maybe the courage to do a little bit about it.  I remain as staunch and pompous a fool as ever I was.

     I wouldn't expect otherwise from the Jews or anybody else in Warsaw.  Some folks did a little better, some didn't.

     My understanding is that most of those Jews thought they were trying to make it easier for their fellows and doing something in a less draconian way than the S.S. would have done.  I don't really know what I would have done in such a bind.  One of my cousins, if I remember correctly, thought there was some hope for an actual resettlement eastward rather than being moved to death camps, but I'll tell you, I can't really be certain of it after all these years.  And who knows how much people were fooling themselves?  Not me.
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