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Local Rebel
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25 posted 01-02-2006 08:10 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

I have no idea why the thread was locked Baba Michi... I haven't read it.  My comments here are philosophizing over the words that are expressed in this thread.

Opeth = JCP
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26 posted 01-02-2006 08:59 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

Local Rebel

Poking around with doubtful name-calling is hardly "philosophizing" about words in this thread.

Calling JCP "Opeth" at this point, seems to have negative connotations, seems more like a poke or like saying "Once an Opeth always an Opeth"  I know you don't mean anything harsh, but I doubt it may make JCP feel very well.  

I will ask you what you asked earlier "What is it that you want to accomplish?"  
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27 posted 01-02-2006 09:16 PM       View Profile for JesusChristPose   Email JesusChristPose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JesusChristPose

I believe some people feel good "attacking" others, even without knowing why or what the cause was.

I'll say it again. I don't know what I did to close that thread except to ask a person a question and only wanting a truthful answer. If that is a wrong thing, then I can only shake my head in disbelief, because if someone asked me a question like that, I would gladly answer the question, honestly.

... This entire episode only confirms what I already know, and that is I am at peace with my Creator, if there is one.




"If this grand panaorama before me is what you call God... then God is not dead."
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28 posted 01-02-2006 10:30 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

Well Ess, I don't know that I called anybody any derogatory names.  Stephan gave his philosophy and I gave mine in response.  If that became a Rorschack for someone then it is a burdensome chip someone is carrying.

If Opeth is a derogatory name then I apologize -- it was his chosen name -- and his current name seems to be at odds with trying to show respect or empathy for others and his own statement in this thread indicates that he thinks there can be such a thing as too much empathy -- it's a prescription for flame.


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29 posted 01-02-2006 10:40 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

"I don't know what I did to close that thread except to ask a person a question and only wanting a truthful answer."


That's the problem, JCP
It's not up to you to decide what someone elses "truthful answer is" What someone's belief is is up to them to say to you, not for you to say to them.  This was coming out to an extreme in the other thread. It seems like you were hounding Stephanos and trying to make him say what you believed his belief was, and how you believed it should be spoken in words.  That manner was not a respectful exchange of honesty.  It was not up to you to say what Stephanos true
belief is, it was up to Stephanos.  Do you see what I mean?  
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30 posted 01-02-2006 10:50 PM       View Profile for JesusChristPose   Email JesusChristPose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JesusChristPose

Hey LR, quit the semantical bull. Have you ever heard of innuendos and stating what one believes, indirectly? Just say it. Kind of like the commercial... I'd rather have a person be honest than be condesceding while "playing games." What business was it of yours if you never even read the other thread like you said?

I am done replying to you. Bow your head to someone else.

"If this grand panaorama before me is what you call God... then God is not dead."

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31 posted 01-02-2006 10:57 PM       View Profile for JesusChristPose   Email JesusChristPose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JesusChristPose

"That's the problem, JCP
It's not up to you to decide what someone elses "truthful answer is" What someone's belief is is up to them to say to you, not for you to say to them.  This was coming out to an extreme in the other thread. It seems like you were hounding Stephanos and trying to make him say what you believed his belief was, and how you believed it should be spoken in words.  That manner was not a respectful exchange of honesty.  It was not up to you to say what Stephanos true
belief is, it was up to Stephanos.  Do you see what I mean?"


~ I see what you mean, but then maybe I watched too many political roundtable discussions... and when I asked Stephanos to rephrase his answers, he got upset. His answer was political in nature, indeed, and it was what I believed it was, except he avoided answering it directly.

~ However, I wouldn't of "pressed" the issue if wasn't for the first volley he threw towards me, which seems to be missed by everyone reading. I took much offense to the replies suggesting that I was putting down the southern christian culture, and him coming back with a "I didn't mean it" after the fact, doesn't work for me. I didn't believe it. The fact is, Stephanos should of never posted 2 insinuating derogatory replies without at least asking for clarification... and that Ron and no one else even thought anything of that, doesn't make sense to me.

Do you see what I mean?

"If this grand panaorama before me is what you call God... then God is not dead."

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32 posted 01-02-2006 11:00 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

quote:

I'll say it again. I don't know what I did to close that thread except to ask a person a question and only wanting a truthful answer.



quote:

Have you ever heard of innuendos and stating what one believes, indirectly? Just say it. Kind of like the commercial... I'd rather have a person be honest than be condesceding while "playing games."



This may be some great advice.  When did you stop beating your wife? -- is a question.  

I didn't volley anything at you here and look where we are.
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33 posted 01-03-2006 11:40 AM       View Profile for Ron   Email Ron   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ron's Home Page   View IP for Ron

Sigh.

I like garlic. When I cook, I add it to most meats and some few vegetables. It took a lot of experimenting, over the course of many years, to discover the power of seasoning.

It could have gone a different way.

I can almost imagine a younger me, a more adventurous me, adding garlic to my corn flakes or vanilla ice cream. Yuck. Or, probably worse and certainly more likely, adding too much garlic to a friend's stuffed pork chop and spoiling it for them. Had I ruined too many meals, for too many people, I could see myself giving up on garlic entirely. At some point, I would have to stop blaming the garlic, stop blaming the meat or vegetables, stop blaming the too sensitive taste buds of other people, and accept that I just didn't get it. If I ruined too many meals, and especially if I looked around and realized everyone else was seemingly cooking good meals without incident, I'd like to think I'd be open minded enough to understand and accept my own limitation.

If that sounds a little far fetched, I should probably add that, today and for most of ten years, I only use garlic when I'm eating alone.

Some people just don't get garlic. Some never will. Grace, I think, comes from knowing when it's time to leave the kitchen.


 
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