What sin brings forth, or should bring forth is guilt...not to mention, a great stagnation within our growth...meaning, deep inside, we know we've done wrong, but on the outside, refuse to see it and blame everyone else for our lives, when in fact, it was through our very own choices that we are in the mode we are...we know when desire forces us to act out...and we are indeed as little children, wanting what we want, when we want it, with no thought of whom we might hurt or effect...but the rude awakening is...and what people refuse to see and beleive, harsh words can kill and surpress a person...condiscention is just as strong of a gun, as the gun itself...and the horrible thing is, when we submit ourselves to the unclean, no matter how trivial, it will eventually surface inside of us somehow, even in misdirected anger...but we end up hurting ourselves more by desire of wanting to be right and refusing to say, Man oh man I did wrong by someone.
Instead of always looking at others and blaming them, or to even not allow them their opinion...is wrong...and can do great harm. Basically, each individual is on a path, some further along then others....due to life conditioning, parents, teachers, cleargymen and all other influences during the course of our growth...
we must not mock people for their beliefs, or become angry, or call them stupid b/c we disagree, much more so, we must help them along when need be...and most of all, no matter our education, or how well we mince words, or what article we bring forth to prove our opinions are right, no one but no one knows the real truth until we take our last breath, as no one has died and come back to tell us what is...except Jesus himself...and the dangerous part about being humans is...we all believe our beliefs and religious/political convictions are the absolute truth...and they are not...we all intrupt things differently, by how we were conditioned and brought up, by the way we think. If we only see the negative, then that's what we to will be and act out.
but what we do know is, when we reach out for desire, if it hurts anyone else...then we ourselves will be hurt...and we stagnate not only the growth of others, but ours as well.
We can tell ourselves over and over again...we did what was right, but do we ever really? If we desire goodness for others, and do right by others, before ourselves, before our wants, lusts, etc. We then compliment our lives.
Honestly, what concept I cannot understand, is the desire of sexual satisfaction regardless of the costs to others, of whom we may use, in the name of love, then break up with them, justifying our actions by saying, oh, she/he was a bad person, or didn't love me the way I expected them to...and we go forward to the next and the next...hurting so so many people along the way...and maybe scaring them for live...love I thing has become an excuse for making love...b/c love is not only good times...or being able to function in bed, or being a good lover...we're crazed with sex and it becomes our way of believing we are successful, powerful but when the newness is over, and it comes time to really meet the person we've been so intimate with, we can't seem to understand, that we didn't know them, and yet we shared with them one of the only true gifts we have to give to each other...a holy union? Now we need to excuse our reasons for leaving them...leaving our children, and adding insult to injury, playing tug of war with the children...b/c we didn't really love that person...???? Now comes the bitter battle in court...hurting each other more, not to mention, families and friends, expecting them to take sides, expecting the children to understand???????
And that is just one small example.....
and what about our children, how do we do by them...do we identify our faults and try to break the chains of conditioning...we are not always right...and we know it, but do we allow them their time, or try to force our opinions on them...making them co-dependent on us...b/c we fear being alone and letting them go?
And I set forth this concept in our everyday lives...with co-workers, political views and yes even religion...and yet, if someone does not think like us, instead of being patient, and listening, we become huffed up with insult and our feelings are hurt, so we tell them, they're crazy for feeling the way they do, and outcast them. That is not living our lives to the fullest potential...and until we drop the lust to suceed financially, and instead doing right by others, without any price tag hanging over their heads...then we will again and again proceed to stagnate our own lives...which causes misery, guilt, confusion...not to mention, disguises all the goodness that is really out there. We dwell way to much on the bad, until it grasps our entire being....desire can be a good thing...but we must desire success for everyone else...and in doing so, we will in turn succeed ourselves...and only then, will we grow together as a much more peaceful society. People are actually more afraid to say no...to themselves and to others...b/c we want to belong...and I ask, belong to what?
Politically, we are so huffed up with our parties, that we fear saying, they did wrong! We actually make excuses for unacceptable, corrupt and illegal actions...simply b/c we are afraid to say, he, this guy really did wrong. Instead we find ways to excuse his actions, b/c he represented us...that is desire to exceed at all cost, compromising who we are, and what we know is wrong. And we will collect every news media article that is written to defend that person's actions...when your government is corrupt, so to will be society.
Why we even defend men of the cloth for sexual abuse, instead of standing up and saying, enough is enough...we will not go back to church until this mess is cleaned up and the guilty parties have been punished. Forget about the child, and make excuses for the grown man who should have known better?
No two people will ever agree, but if we could only savor commmunication, digest it, together, we might find a much more appropriate solution....self imposed people we've become, blaming everyone else for our failures...when in fact, from failure comes some of the greatest successes, if we'd only sit down in quality quiet time and self examine...and place more emphasis on the hearts of others in allowance.
There are many desires...which lead to sin...and the ripple effect of that is and will always be, detromental to society...to us...fear of admitting we're wrong, and the lust for material fulfillment...deeming that and only that to be our proof of success...when in fact, happiness is success...in the mundane...humble efforts that focus on others, which in turn, will complement us...by, allowance, patience, personal responsibility, understanding, gives us peace within...sin...cultivates guilt and misdirected anger, which is meant for ourselves...and we will surely suffer from our lusts and desires, if we only think about our own personal gain, instead of how it will effect everyone else around us, therefore, society is effected...we stagnate growth..education, moral ability...
And here's a good one...ban all guns b/c so many people are being killed by them? Instead of saying enough is enough, you murder someone, you go to prision for life, this is unacceptable behavior! So we blame the guns...if someone is a murder, they will find a way without the guns...they are the menace to society....and have nothing to offer a working community but taking the lives of good people? Yet we so desire to excuse they're actions?
I think, we desire to succeed in all the wrong ways, and we haven't learned a lot from history...killing people in the name of our belief, or financial or spiritual beliefs, is not the way...you can't force your beliefs down someone elses throat...or uncondition years and years of conditioning.
Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this thread and adding my mear thoughts on the subject...I may surely be wrong?
[This message has been edited by LeeJ (07-21-2005 07:49 AM).]