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JesusChristPose
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"That may be true; but the bible is only one chapter of the universe.  What do the other chapters say?"

~ I am not sure what you mean. I was arguing from a biblical standpoint only. The other chapters of the universe, meaning what?

~ Personally, I don't buy the Adam & Eve story.

~ What type of a Creator would create 2 young people, put them in a garden with an forbidden tree placed in it, along with a sly ageless evil and cunning snake, tell them not to eat from the said tree, and when they were duped by the ageless evil one, throw them out of the garden on their arses?  

Answer? Not a Creator that I would ever believe in.

Unless, biblically speaking, it was what God expected and Adam & Eve's actions did not create an "original sin."  Which is what I believed when I did believe in the bible.



"I have gone away. The bed is cold and empty. Trees bend their boughs toward the earth. And nighttime birds float as black faces."
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" I am not sure what you mean. I was arguing from a biblical standpoint only. The other chapters of the universe, meaning what?"

I'm trying to argue for other peoples lores as well.  There are strong truths in other peoples lores that refer to the same truth of the soul, but in a different way.  What makes those reference strong truths, is that life and other learnings also support them; just as life and lores support the bible.  Just as the bible may say "the soul is this"  there are other bibles that say "the soul is that" There are things that truly support what the bible says.  But there are things at the same time that truly support what other people say as well.  In the end I think it reveals this: there is more than one to get to something, including the truth.  Some ways may be swifter and safer than others.  But all of them get there.
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If that is what you think it reveals, I have no reason to argue with you. However, Christians would argue with that statement - they believe their way is the only way. Certainly, you know that.

"I have gone away. The bed is cold and empty. Trees bend their boughs toward the earth. And nighttime birds float as black faces."

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Christianity may be the truest way; but it is not the only way.  

[This message has been edited by Essorant (07-31-2005 04:26 PM).]

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"Christianity may be the truest way; but it is not the only way."

~ Protestant and Catholic faiths don't teach that at all. They teach that their way is the only way.

~ Those faiths also don't teach that Cristianity is a derivative from previous religious yore.

  

"I have gone away. The bed is cold and empty. Trees bend their boughs toward the earth. And nighttime birds float as black faces."

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Verba mea delevi.  Studium altius me vocat.

[This message has been edited by Essorant (08-01-2005 01:21 AM).]

 
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