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Brad
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0 posted 05-18-2004 08:12 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

I talked to my parents the other day. They told me that the current interest on saving accounts is one tenth of one percent. They blame Bush.

I don't know.

I don't see much point in rehashing the things I've said, I don't see much point in going over the mistakes of the last four years, but I'm interested in why you think Bush should go another four.

I'm curious.
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1 posted 05-18-2004 09:20 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

I don't.
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He won't
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It's beyond my consideration as well.

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1) Because he's not an appeaser of terrorists.

2) From the choices we have, I think he is the strongest on national security issues, which I think should be our priority at this time.

3) I got a nice tax refund two years in a row, and I'd like to keep that happening for as long as possible! That never happened for me under the previous administration. Democrats always seem to want to take more of my money. The interest rate is not an issue for me since I don't have any money to save anyway. But at least Bush gives me some of my tax money back!

4) The terrorists and Michael Moore want him out! That's reason enough for me to want to keep him for another four years!
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Because Kerry is a weeny.

Seriously, I think No Child Left Behind is a good thing and the President's Commission on Excellence in Special Education produced outstanding recommendations for improving the reauthorized Individuals with Disabilities Education Act.  Because Democrats have traditionally been teachers union cronies they have never produced anything close to what the Bush Administration has in this regard.

Okay ... shoot me for being a single-issue voter.

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Ironically, being as he's supposed to be a democrat, there is little difference between Kerry's stance and Bush's as far as the war goes. His response to the recent abuse issue was almost word-for-word matching Gore's. He claims (just as Bush) that we need to maintain a presence there in the Middle East until the chaos has subsided.

Glad you got some money back, Denise!. Wish I could say the same. I paid close to fifteen thousand dollars in federal taxes alone for the year 2003. I claimed zero throughout the year, yet still came close to having to shell money out of pocket come reconciliation day. According to my accountant, the Bush administration has apparently adjusted tax income burdens to the detriment of single people who make over a certain amount of money. Then, there's that whole minimum tax thing which irritates the hell out of me.

I suppose I could keep going on, but I have to go to bed so I can get up early and avoid most of the traffic on the way to work - considering the insanely high gas prices (highest average per gallon in history as of this morning), I want as smooth of a drive as possible.
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7 posted 05-19-2004 02:19 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

"Because Kerry is a weeny"

smile.

and nod.

That was almost incentive.
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8 posted 05-19-2004 06:36 AM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

Brad- The rate your parents are getting must be something with their bank, because I am getting a slightly better rate than that.
As for why it's that low, you can traditionally thank the economy for that. When the economy is doing well, interest rates on loans and mortgages, etc. always drop. In order for the lending institutions to make money for their investors they need to lower the rate they give to their depositors as well. Recently, the Fed has been talking about raising the interest rates to slow down the economy. Then, the savings rate will go up slightly.

jbouder- The No Child Left Behind is a great initiative, however there are still cracks that need to be filled. The local schools are required to abide by the provisions, however, with this being a depressed area doesn't have all of the money needed. We are taxed 8 ways from Sunday (School tax, real estate tax, local (As well as state) sales tax, Occupational Priviledge tax (We have to pay a tax to work!!!), and still we have the 4th highest rate of families on assitance in the state. That needs to be addressed by the Federal government as well as the State government.

Chris- There is very little difference in their stances NOW. Kerry cannot actually decide what his stance is for sure. HE voted for the war, then he voted against funding the war, then he was against the troops being there, and wanted them home... now it seems that he is for keeping them there to do the job. Although I DO care what his viwes actually are, I care more that he doesn't have a defined view.

To actually answer your question, Brad, I believe that Bush will be reelected because he is the better choice over-all, and the undecideds will learn more about why Kerry isn't the better choice towards the end of the election period (Late Sept. Oct.)

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Brad:

By the way ...

quote:
I talked to my parents the other day. They told me that the current interest on saving accounts is one tenth of one percent. They blame Bush.


Actually, they ought to blame the Federal Reserve.  My equity portfolio increased 25% this year.  I blame Bush.

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Brad, I suggest your parents shop around. The average rate on passbook and regular savings accounts is 0.60% nationwide. There are those who exceed that, however...

Tennessee Commerce Bank - 2.00%
ING Direct              - 2.00%
GMAC Bank               - 2.00%
California 1st Natl Bank- 1.75%

As in many things, it does pay to shop around. I can't find ANY bank that pays 0.10%.

Yes, I believe Bush will be re-elected. I could go into a long list of reasons which would do nothing but invite arguments and criticisms from some of those who post here so I'll just say he is the best of what we have to choose from. I can't imagine Kerry in the top spot by any stretch of the imagination and I thank God Gore wasn't there for 9/11....also, as has been mentioned, the terrorists DON'T want him in and that's one good reason....
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Geeze, Chris, you paid in taxes half of what I earned in 2003. How can I get your kind of job?

I guess more of the tax burden went to the single folks when the marriage penalty was done away with this year? It seems somebody always gets screwed. I think a flat tax would be the best way to go. In the meantime, I guess you could always get married!

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I think that his part in making Partial Birth Abortion illegal is admirable.

Kerry is Pro-abortion.

Also, his commitment toward a constitutional ammendment that retains the traditional definition of Marriage is a reason for me.


I don't agree with everything Bush does, by a long shot, but he's the better choice in my estimation.

Stephen.


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13 posted 05-19-2004 11:52 PM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

Since you brought up that particular discussion, Stephanos, one of the main reasons I refuse to back Kerry (besides the fact taht I am a conservative Republican) is the fact that he is Catholic and is FOR abortion and FOR gay marriages... those are two of the Top 10 in the Catholic Hit Parade... If he is willing to compromise his religeous beliefs to gain an election, what else will compromise in a stress-filled situation when it REALLY matters?

I also would enjoy a return to a more "traditional" version of marriage, however the one thing that President Bush has going against him (in my book) is the fact that he wants to use the Constitution of the United States to settle a social challenge, and to deny what many people consider to be a matter of civil rights. That just sounds a bit too much like putting someone in a full body cast because he got a hang nail. That issue should be settled by Justices Rehnquist, Scalia, Kennedy, and the rest of the crew BEFORE anyone considers any laws for or against.
Just my opinion, though.

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I don't think he should go for another 4....Kerry should become the next president.
Bush is horrible, ruining the country.
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This is just a listening thread for me, I honestly want to know why people still feel Bush is a capable leader.

Nevertheless , I just have to point out that when Kennedy was running, one of the concerns was precisely that he would follow the Pope and surrender sovereignty (however little) to a foreign power. Leiberman was also pressed to make a decision between affairs of state and his orthodox Jewry.

How things change. Or maybe they don't.

  
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It's the same old same old, Brad.

People apply labels and then are surprised when others fail to live up to their expectations. Everyone knows, after all, that Catholics let the Vatican do all their thinking for them. Some want that, some don't, but everyone gets real confused when faced with the possibility their labels may be more fragile than they realized.
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Dude,I dunno if any president has done better the second time around,,,and I am speaking strictly from the ones that have done two terms in my range of knowlege and lifetime.
Sometimes, I wonder if they don't run for  another term, just because its easier than all the packing and moving that would be involved.

Michelle

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quote:
It's the same old same old, Brad.


Why in the world do you think I'm going to change?

Its an election year for chris sake.

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Thanks again, Michelle, for the chuckles!
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You too, Brad!
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WoW. Drama...~lol~ I personnally want Bush for another 4, but thats just me. I am extremely opposed to abortion, so i think that is a big "why" factor for me, but i dont wanna get into it all, cuz i need to get to bed soon, and all the drama... ugh! ~lol~
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Alli- I have a question for you...

What proof do you have that President Bush has done a horrible job running the country?
I am not looking for the "proof" that your parents, or friends, or teachers may have been telling you. I don't want to hear the same Jerk-kneed responses that everyone tends to give. I am not interested in Michael Moore's version of the "truth".. I would like to hear- if you would be willing-the actual FACTS as to your thoughts. I am not saying they are wrong, I would just be interested in seeing you backing them up.

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I'd echo Ringo's question.  Generally, the economy is growing well, the war in Iraq has not resulted in the "doom-and-gloom" loss-of-life and environmental devastation predicted when we went in and, with the exception of the Madrid bombing, our aggressive Mid-East military offensives have not resulted in significant increases in domestic terrorist retaliation.  

Arguably, fossil-fuel prices are a blight on the current administration's record, but dependence on foreign oil imports and environmental constraints on expanding domestic refineries is more to blame than the administration's energy policies.  I think the Alaskan oil-drilling short-term solution bolstered by aggressive development of hydrogen fuel-cell technology are sound plans.  Surely we can't blame the Bush administration for flawed environmental and energy policies he inherited.

So perhaps, in addition to the original question, we should be asking ourselves, "Why not Bush?"

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In an interview with Paris Match magazine released by the White House on Friday, the president held out the possibility of inviting Chirac to visit his Texas ranch, a prized invitation for many foreign leaders.

"If he wants to come and see some cows, he's welcome to come out there and see some cows," Bush said.


How can you not like this guy? LOL!

 
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