Member Rara Avis
the ass-end of space
Look, I'm not pointing fingers at teachers and away from students. I offered the other side of the coin to the better students comment. What makes a bad student is the issue and I disagree that it's simply a matter of teenagers being belligerent,defiant and lazy.
There is no one cause that stands above the rest(except perhaps funding), the problem is a culmination of all factors mentioned in this thread. It's a horrible cycle.
It begins with parenting, if there is no respectable structure in the home then there is no respected structure for children outside it. Sadly, many parents would rather sit there children in front of televisions than talk to them.
Which leads to the effect of media (I started the thread on this note albeit in an undisciplined rant)on young minds. This shouldn't be taken likely, it's a serious problem that more than any other culture, North American children face. Faced with and exploited by mixed messages, what kind of children are we molding? By the time they are in school they're already tainted, not the raw blocks of clay teachers would love to shape.
And therein lies the next problem. Many teachers think it's too late and suffer from an, I'll teach, if they listen fine, if they don't it's their loss, attitude. This is where passionate teachers, are required. Willing to show leadership, drive through those intial obstacles and send a clear message to the students. If a teacher is lazy, bored and indifferent well then it follows that their students will be too.
Finally, yes, it does lie upon the students, because in the end it's up to them to conquer these challenges. It's up to them to take those messages and learn.
The North American school system is spiralling out of control not from one but ALL of these factors because they are all linked. Just as LR said it's time to garner strengths and exploit weaknesses in the systems.