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Lazy Humanism?

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Opeth
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25 posted 04-17-2004 06:21 PM       View Profile for Opeth   Email Opeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Opeth

It is in my opinion that a true Christian would be completely rejected by this and any other society - truly, not of this world.

"I have gone away. The bed is cold and empty. Trees bend their boughs toward the earth. And nighttime birds float as black faces.

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26 posted 04-17-2004 06:42 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Okay, now I'm just confused.

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27 posted 04-17-2004 06:46 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Berengar,

A minority, yes. Beleagured, me?

Weren't you the one who suggested that I actually enjoyed this minority thing?
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Brad,


Whether what I referred to is "lazy Christianity" or just an unthinking apathetic acceptance of the Christian system of values, I don't quite know.  Things which are taken for granted and held without much conviction, usually end up slipping away ever so slowly.  In this regard, "humanists" and Christians are both succeptable to the same malady.  Though I'd like to think there is much more help and opportunity in the Christian community to retain this "ethic".  I do recognize that many who call themselves humanists would not consider this shift toward relativism a malady at all.  However, most well read Christians consider that very response a part of the disease itself.  


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29 posted 04-18-2004 09:12 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Except that it's not relativism.

Unless relativism is the opposite of totalitarianism.
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Jim asks us to look at Stalin, Mao, and Hitler. I ask you to look at the same people. Can any one of them legitimately be called a humanist?


Brad:

Perhaps the atheist ticket has had a few notable failures in recent history.  I don't think it would be correct to consider any of the three "humanists" per se, but couldn't one make the argument that they are all products - at some level - of humanist political theory?

Jim
 
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