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Do you believe in Time Travel?

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wintertao
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0 posted 12-28-2003 08:23 PM       View Profile for wintertao   Email wintertao   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wintertao

Do you believe in Parallel Universes, Time Travel, or do you think humans will ever be able to figure out how to travel thru worm holes...???

I saw a very interesting show over the holidays where the late Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking and many others were discussing these things.

I think Time Travel is probably possible, but if humans will ever figure out how to do it or not I don't know, but as SH said "I wouldn't want to bet on it...my opponent may have seen the future"  

[This message has been edited by wintertao (12-28-2003 08:26 PM).]

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1 posted 12-28-2003 11:16 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

I travel in time every day
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2 posted 12-28-2003 11:36 PM       View Profile for Dark Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dark Angel

hehehe @Essorant

I believe it could be possible through an OBE..Out of Body Experience... Astral Travel.

Just my thoughts.

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3 posted 12-29-2003 08:21 AM       View Profile for Poet4Christ   Email Poet4Christ   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Poet4Christ's Home Page   View IP for Poet4Christ

I heard something about one of the Democratic nominees believing in time travel - I think it was Clark.

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered. Proverbs 28:26

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Yes.  Why not?
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If one were to go back in time, let's say 5 years hence, it would mean that he already went back in time.   If he already went back in time, he has altered his future.  Also we run into the sticky problem of how he could go back in time, and still not yet have reached the future where he would do so.  Also if he went back in time, could he refuse to go back in time when the time again approached, or is he deterministically bound to do it again and again?  Talk about a pandora's paradox box!


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I will have to mark this day as a day of historical significance because I believe it is the very first time that I not only agree with, but completely agree with, Stephanos.

"If this grand panorama before me is what you call God...then God is not dead."

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I'm in with opeth and stephoano,,,,if we did figure out how to do it,,we'd mess somthing up somewhere,,,,,,
As I read in a sci-fi book once,,,,a group of fellas time traveled to hunt a T-rex,,,,,one fella accidentally killed a bug of some sort,,,,when they got back to their own time,,,,dinosaurs had been the ones to evolve,,and they were captured as freaks,,,,
That would be my luck
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as salaam alaikum,

There is no scientific proof of worm holes, though there are black holes.  Assuming worm holes exist, and assuming they share the same 'properties' of black holes, it would be impossible to enter it and survive, let alone travel through it.  Anything that entered a black hole would be stretched until it 'snapped'...in a fraction of a second.  But I suppose sometime millions of yeras from now...it could be possible?
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9 posted 01-19-2004 07:35 PM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

wintertao- It's like I told you next week... there is no suck of a thing as time travel. It is just something that sells sci-fi novels.
Actually, in theory, time travel is possible, however, who would want to take that responsibility? As Michelle said... We could travel back and accidentally kill your grandfather as a child, or possibly leave a bit of technology in that time zone, or even have sex with someone, and get them pregnant (uh... presuming of course that the traveler is male and the recipient is female, of course), and then they give birth to an evil person that "never existed" in your time... Then you would have severely screwed the pooch.
Actually, this discussion brings to mind a discussion that a few friends and I had after a long night of too many adult beverages...
In some movie that we saw, this guy went back in time and fell in love, and eventually had sex with a girl, who ripped a medalliion off of his neck that had been given to him by his grandmother, and that she had gotten from his father's biological father. Now, the girl that he had sex with turned out to be his grandmother, and he turned out to have impregnated her with his father. Now, if he had not gone back into time, how would his father have ever been born and, how would he have ever been born to go back into time?

Cause in my dreams it's always there
The evil face that twists my mind
And brings me to despair.

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10 posted 01-20-2004 12:14 PM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

quote:
I will have to mark this day as a day of historical significance because I believe it is the very first time that I not only agree with, but completely agree with, Stephanos.



See, Opeth ... Miracles DO happen!


Stephen.
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11 posted 01-21-2004 02:05 AM       View Profile for Kaoru   Email Kaoru   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kaoru

See.. Donnie Darko.

That movie is so cool.
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I dig it Ringo,,,,sorta like Terminator,,,fella had to go back to get the woman pregnant, have the freedom fighter born, to send him back in the first place,,which in turn brought the cyborg whos chip left behind in the hand gave eventual birth thru study of the computer tha takes over anyway!    big ole circle,,,
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13 posted 01-23-2004 06:54 PM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

Yeah, Donnie Darko was pretty sweet.

"I call it a Hawking Hole."
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14 posted 01-27-2004 12:46 PM       View Profile for Vagabond   Email Vagabond   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Vagabond

quote "There is no scientific proof of worm holes, though there are black holes"

there is proof of worm holes. take a mobeus strip then trace you finger all around it. One side right?
Take a hole puncher punch a hole in it, you now have a worm hole.

On the other hand (you have other fingers) there is no proof for black holes

Vagabon the Lost One

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Albert Einstein's postion was that travel to the future was possible since time passes more slowly with increased speeds, up to the speed of light, at which point time would stop, and beyond that would begin to go backwards--however, he also went on to say that the speed of light was the upper limiting velocity. In addition matter would continue to contract until it ceased to exist. His postition was that traveling to the future was possible- since someone traveling at very high speeds could travel for what would be to them a fraction of the time that had actually passed on earth.
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16 posted 01-27-2004 11:49 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Well, Ringo, for some reason the scenirio you gave reminds me greatly of Heilien.

As for traveling back and repeating the same actions over ad nauseum, I'm again reminded of Bill Murry in Groundhogs Day.

I do recall Einstein's theories shown graphically through Sagan's Cosmos show, which illustrated time travel in regards to light speed. The motorscooterist glowing red coming and blue going has always stuck in my mind. Aside from that, the lightspeed traveling scooterist went on a short ride, only to find his twin, upon returing, to be extremely eldery while the rider was still in his 20's, as 'time' behaves rather differently under that theorum. In essense, were lightspeed travel for our bodies possible, that would be essentially time travel, especially if one traveling simply looped the earth at light speed, or somewhat approaching, then returned. Granted, the time travel would be futuristic, and the travellor anachronistic, but that's quite beside the point...
 
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