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Neitzsche - On Death

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25 posted 08-01-2003 01:11 AM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

"I'm personally confused by his view that Christians spend an inordinate amount of wasted time trying to "save their souls" when I thought Luther pretty much laid to rest in the German church the scholastic confusion of how our souls are saved."

Well Jim, no matter what epiphany Luther had about the nature of Salvation, I don't think he intended to make it a careless enterprise.  Mere works is no way to be righteous in God's sight, but faith remains a matter of "fear and trembling" according to scripture, and salvation is spoken of as something to be "worked out".  

As to Nietzsche and the German Church, it is clear from his writings that he deemed the teachings of the Church as Mythology ... and a political attempt to control people through making them into a slave race.  All of the Biblical  teachings about love, kindness, meekness, humility, self-sacrifice etc... he disdained as signs of weakness.  He then promoted their opposite vices as "life affirming".  He was overly ambitious in his attempt to establish a whole new paradigm for morality, by overthrowing the moral code he claimed was imposed by religious leaders.  However the teaching of the Church always was that these principles (more or less) are indelibly written on the hearts of men by God himself, through the conscience.  How hard it is to eliminate what God has published so emphatically and broadly!

Since Nietzsche was a rebel against the established religion of his day, it is not hard to see why any Church doctrine was rejected by him.  Isn't it true that his Father was a Lutheran minister?    


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the only way to know that we are truly alive is to confront what we fear most: death!
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27 posted 09-08-2004 10:43 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

No, that's an endorphin rush.

The only way to know you're truly alive (whatever that means) is to live.

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