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dougsbird21
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0 posted 11-09-2002 04:31 PM       View Profile for dougsbird21   Email dougsbird21   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit dougsbird21's Home Page   View IP for dougsbird21

Have u ever wondered how this horoscope/star sign business started? I have...

I'm not one to believe what is predicted in my horoscope--just enjoy reading the stuff for entertainment. However, I think it's really  interesting that, via the alignment of the stars,astrologers make predictions that sooo many people read and find major similarities to. I know more people who can relate to their star sign than those who can't. How was all this devised?! I think it's really neat...wouldn't just off a cliff because my horoscope said to, but when such a large following of people who find their signs to be just like they are, it makes u think...

Like, even though I just read them for fun, I found myself the other day trying to find out about the sign "sagittarius" because I'm expecting a baby on Dec 2nd. I don't believe any horoscope stuff/not a religious astrological type, but figure if so many people find major similarities via themselves and their horoscopes, maybe I could learn a bit about my daughter before she's born...haha. Hey, if the scopes are bang on for alot of people...maybe she'll turn out like her sign! Who knows! It's fun to think about! And to think they got it all from looking in the sky--amazing. All the things that make life interesting...  

"Write what you feel, not what u think you should feel."

Crysania
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1 posted 11-10-2002 02:14 AM       View Profile for Crysania   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Crysania's Home Page   View IP for Crysania

Well, I believe in astrology quite a lot, as well as all that other 'stuff.' Hmmmm........ www.astrology.com has all sorts of horoscope things.
As for being accurate, my sign (Virgo) portrays me pretty darn well. Overall, some things about astrology are right on, some aren't. It's kind of a sketchy thing. (Lol, look at me, aren't I helpful?) Anyhow, the website is a must-check-out, it's one of the best sites for this stuff.
If you're curious and want to, you may even want to record down the positions/houses of your daughter when she's born, and see how it relates to her, and check for yourself how accurate this stuff is. *shrugs* All just ideas.

Hope I helped at least a bit!
Blessed Be!
- Stephanie

Do what you want and say what you feel. Those who matter won't mind and those who mind don't matter. (Forget who said that...must find their name.)

Red
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2 posted 11-10-2002 01:41 PM       View Profile for Red   Email Red   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Red

I had an astronomy teacher once who told us that astrology was a hoax because the stars have shifted since astrology was invented and we were all born under the sign prior to the sign that astrolgy says we were born under.  For example, I'm a virgo but really I was born under the stars of Leo.  Anyhow, I don't know if that was true or not but I thought it was kind of funny.
Personally, I read my horoscope and when it says something good, hell yeah I'm a believer.
When it says something bad, then I'm a cynic and it's all lies.
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3 posted 11-10-2002 06:40 PM       View Profile for Skyfire   Email Skyfire   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfire

I generally tend to not believe in astrology, although the Gemini profile fits me to a 'T'. Indecisive? That's me... High energy? That's me (usually)... I don't usually read my horoscope though, cause I figure that if life's going to hand me a good day or a bad day, there's nothing I can do about it by reading my horoscope Unfortunately I can't stay in bed like I'm advised to a lot of the time lol. I do find it a fascinating subject though, and I love using it to get to know myself better. I don't know... maybe I'm a half-hearted believer lol

I'm so cute!

fractal007
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4 posted 11-11-2002 12:13 AM       View Profile for fractal007   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for fractal007

Brad:

Dang, and I was kinda enjoying being a scorpio.  That good ole mysterious scorpion is SO cool!

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh"

-- Magus

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5 posted 11-11-2002 02:18 AM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

If astrology is to be taken seriously as something to be followed (in a religious context), then I have to ask some things.


1) How would astrologists explain vast differences in personalities of people born at the exact same day or even hour, such as often happens with twins?

2)  Upon what authority are we to believe that the "order" of the stars, can be trusted    to order our daily lives? In other words, do the stars have order?  If so who or what  ordered them?  Did that being who ordered the stars reveal to us the system of astrology, qualifying it as a trustworthy guide?  Or are the laws of astrology merely some human idea?  In short, why philosophically/ metaphysically, should I believe in astrology as a trustworthy guide for life?

Stephen

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6 posted 11-12-2002 07:26 AM       View Profile for Opeth   Email Opeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Opeth

"If astrology is to be taken seriously as something to be followed (in a religious context), then I have to ask some things..."

~ If any belief is to be followed, the same questions would apply.


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7 posted 11-13-2002 04:04 PM       View Profile for Stephanos   Email Stephanos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Stephanos's Home Page   View IP for Stephanos

Opeth,

I wholeheartedly agree.

The truth can stand up to interrogation.

Stephen.

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Somebody asked me once, "Why do you think the universe was created?"

~ I told them as far as I can tell I am not sure if it was created or if it just happened to be. However, if it were created, whomever created it must have also created life, and that life can be found here, of course, and elsewhere in the universe.

Christopher
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9 posted 11-16-2002 01:25 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

who says life was found here?

as to the signs 'fitting people' - it's like many of the online tests, horoscopes, what not - if you are general enough, you can easily cover the bulk of people you're addressing just through odds.

if i were to tell you that you're looking forward to a change for the better... there's a VERY good chance that most people who read that will agree. that doesn't mean the stars tell your future (never even looked at them, honest!), it just means i found a statement that could be applicable to a large group of people.
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10 posted 11-16-2002 01:26 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

oh - and the same goes for personality triats. if i say you're ambitious and caring, i've a pretty good chance that you'll agree with me.
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I don't follow astrology religiously, but I do believe it to a certain degree.

I think there is a combination of predestination and free will. The stars to me are just an example of this. -- Some has already been drawn (like a rough copy, or blue print) and from there we fill in the details by making choices.

I don't know if that makes sense to anyone. It makes sense in my head.

By the way Chris, I agree with you about the generalizations - however, there are certain qualities/flaws that I know I have whether or not I read about them in a book or magazine.   


i was here

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serenity blaze
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12 posted 12-06-2002 12:05 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

sigh.

Just this, and I'm outta here.

Go beyond the fortune telling.

Study the archetype. The study of this symbolism makes the Old Testament much more meaningful.

I'm gonna go my witchy way now.
Caelestis
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I just read my preference profile as an Aries on astrology.com, and it was about 90% inaccurate.  I've never given any credit to astrology, but I'd also love to hear some logical and scientific evidence as to why the planets and stars could have any measurable effect on your personality, and how they could be used to predict the future.
Kosetsu
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On the other hand, I just read my Cancer profile on astrology.com, and it's pretty damn close, even down to my technological preferences when it comes to computers (mundane programs, web design...screw the flashy pretty stuff. If it does what I need it to without the flashy crap, all the better).

I think one thing people forget though is that astrology doesn't make the person. We make ourselves. In the case of the two twins, how many twins do you know that want to be exactly alike? I don't know very many. Most that I've met (which I'll admit is only maybe 5 pairs) want to be as different as they can be. If you take two Cancers, put one in an abusive home, put the other in a loving, nurturing home, they're bound to turn out different, to some degree.

As for the generality theory, what if I told you that you can be highly manipulative and are prone to brood and even be downright nasty when you don't get your way? Would you agree with me? Those are qualities of Cancer, and I have to admit, I've found them to be true in myself.

Personally, I do think that astrology has some credibility. Sure, it's not gonna describe you 100%. For example, mine says I shouldn't like to travel, but I have a love of travel, and intent to travel all over the place once I'm able.

A curious theory I've developed is that Water signs may be a little more inclined to poetry and other works of literature than other signs. Anyone care to put it to the test? How many Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces signs do we have?

-Adam
 
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