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Brad
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0 posted 2000-09-27 08:16 PM


Here is a quick run down of my simplistic/reductionist views of philosophy from Descart. I reserve the right to change my mind and to be completely arbitrary. Actually, wouldn't mind help in changing my mind.  

Descart -- unified self because I think.

Kant -- impossiblity of sense certainty, of seeing and describing the world from self.

Hegel -- idealism -- of realizing the above two, of combining them and arguing the historical development of 'geist' or spirit in the unfolding of speculative thought. Spirit as truth, not as God.

Marx -- materialism -- reversal of Hegel. Man develops in a history that creates speculative thought, creates spirit, not the other way around. "Men make history but they do not make it exactly as they choose."

Nietsche (or Smith  ) -- Truth is the product of power relations, of the assertions of individuals. We have given the name "will to truth" for what is actually the "will to power".

Heidegger -- the deconstruction of essence. Existance and essence are the same thing. We are alienated from the world because we have moved away from the discovery of the world to the world  as potential use.

Derrida -- Believes Heidegger was right but didn't do what he said he was doing. Focuses on deconstruction of commonly received ideas in philosophy but holds out for a future-to-come. It is, however, an unpredictable future. Believes 'justice' is ultimately undeconstructable.

I'll stop there.

Feel free to attack away (this was a lot harder to do than you think and I know most of these are easily and rightly debateable.)

Thanks,
Brad


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Local Rebel
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1 posted 2000-09-28 12:23 PM


good job Brad...

not sure I'd go along with the take on Neitsche -- but overall not a bad bunch of headlines....

JP
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2 posted 2000-10-03 01:43 PM


Good start Brad.  I'll have to print this out and keep it handy for a quick reference for future philisophical discussions.

I may tend to agree with Local Rebel on Smith, but I would like to know what his take on it is...


Yesterday is ash, tomorrow is smoke; only today does the fire burn.
JP

Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so.
B. Russell

Brad
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3 posted 2000-10-03 05:53 PM


Thanks guys.

I've thought about adding a few more of this sound bite philosophy thing (wait till I get to Jesus   )

Actually, I think every one of these descriptions is contestable (I haven't read Kant or Descart since undergraduate school), debatable. My guess is that both of you feel most comfortable in discussing 'Smith'. I know if someone wrote the above about Marx I would probably say the same thing you guys have about 'Smith'.

But JP's right -- not intended as a summary so much as the start of discussion.

Brad

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