Member Rara Avis
"1, if someone told me about this huge amount of pain, or just boredom they were suffering and were addamant that the best thing to do would be to step out, then i would be, if i loved this person, willing to go through my own personal suffering for the loss of them so that they would be free from pain."
i say....* my answer... you are just one person... each person has several hundred maybe thousands of people who know them/relate to them... plus.... you don't know the pain or mourning you would suffer, in advance... it's not worth finding out how strong you think you are*
"2 well, thats not strictly true, in most cases yes but that stands as no argument if the person who was committing suicide had taken care before hand."
I say *true. people can "tie up loose ends" before they pull their own plug. thing is, why take chances? LOL*
you said, "3 again, not strictly true, say for instance someone threw themself into the ocean or a furnace (see Gattacca!) then there woud be no clean up"
and I say, *death takes clean up no matter what the method*
you said, "4 talking about the purpose of spirit and intrinsic gifts is okay but it is only an opinion and im sure a suicidal person would not share it."
and i say, *suicidal people aren't thinking correctly... thus my previous discourse*
you said, "5 Quite true, tomorrow could be the start of a brilliant life, but it could also just get worse and worse."
to which, I say *every silver lining has a cloud*
you said, "6,7,8,9. well if i went to a casino and bet all the money i had on red on the roulette and lost i don't think i could convince anyone that the chance of lots of money was worth the risk of no money. also great things may happen but they may not so..."
and I answer, *life is not a gamble unless you don't feed the horse or exercise him*
you said, "10,yes but if there is no god, what then?"
to which, I answer, *if i were anybody, i wouldn't wanna take that chance*
you said, "i am not suicidal, r even slightly depressed, i am far too arrogant for that. but in a piece of writing i was doing suicide was involved and i thought, well whty not?"
to which I say, *indeed... why not? why not live? it's better than the alternative... and glad to hear this had nothing to do with your own state of mind... i'd be interested in reading whatever piece of creative writing you compose about this subject.... why not, indeed? why not explore all the endless possibilities! Ain't life fun?*
thanks, rene, for this very interesting question... hope i quashed the dilemma at least once... LOL