There are things I would fight for and die unintentionally for (say like stopping Hitler).... but I can't see how tooo many problems could be solved by my intentional death. If I had the choice between my family dying and me I would definetly step up to the "plate" and sacrafice myself completely for them....if I knew the mass of starving people could be fed by my death then I would sacrafice myself, but if I knew there might be a way to fix things without dying then of course I'd choose to live....I'd go to war for certain things, ideals I value but I wouldn't go to die...the exact opposite in fact. I wouldn't avoid conflict but rather try to choose my battles wisely.
I too am from Ontario, Canada so I feel the need to coment on some of what you said.
"As for Brad's thread on Socialism/Capitalism etc. It is above my head. I know here in Canada things are changing. We have a provincial government in place that is cutting away some of the access spending our social programs do. We needed this badly and our porvince is in better shape finacially then it has been in many, many years."
The problem with social programs isn't that they exist or cost money, the problem lies with who pays for it. The bill is strictly laid on the shoulders of the middle class, the wealthy and large corporations don't contribute even close to what the middle class does especially if you want to put it in gross percentage. That is why I believe social programs don't work and "seem" to cost so much....cause the middle class foots the bill for everyone, the rich and the poor.
"The problem I have with the Democratic system is the attention or special treatment some groups get. If you are vocal enough and extreme enough you get what you scream for."
I agree, they're almost as bad as big business lobbiest who "contibute" to political funds to get their way.
"A few years ago a very vocal feminist group screamed for legalization of nudity in public. We now have laws that state you may walk down a public street topless. When this law was first passed we had near fatal accidents happening because women exercised this right. (Men driving hit other cars because they were watching the view. My almost did that to us one day)."
Actually they were fighting for the equal right to not have to wear a shirt (not full public nudity) like their equal conterpart, us evil men And just because a few people can't focus doesn't mean their shouldn't be an equal law for both men and women.....personally I find the change in view refreshing .
"Since the issue has quieted, you see NO ONE doing this. Why is that? It is because people want attention and will go to great lengths to get it."
You may be right, or is it because they just wanted the right to have a choice thereby enhancing their sense of freedom?
"Laws have been passed in this country lately allowing same sex partners to have spousal benifits. This I think is rediculous. (I have nothing against a persons personal sexual perference, do what you like but do not throw it in my face nor make me pay for your perference)."
The nerve of them....they should be grateful to pay for our preferences....perhaps if we let them get married, like opposite sex couples that are in love, there wouldn't be such a fuss....or is that too icky....kind of funny that it's okay for opposite sex couples to get married and have oral and anal sex but it's not okay for same sex couples to do this....when does someone have the right to own their body and mind? Marriage between consenting non-related (don't want nine eyed kids) adults of any sex should be a right for every adult. Tell me, if a person was a natural hermaphrodite, who should they be allowed to marry or should they be allowed to marry at all?
"This being the case, why can't spinster brothers and sisters who share a home, collect the same benifits? I think we are trying to please too many people and the majority is now becoming the minority."
Do you think love between a brother and sister or friends is the same as the love between a couple that participates in the act of "making love"? Should a homosexual couple have to pay for you to be in love and you not have to pay for them?????
How do we as a society, benefit from oppressing the right of a homosexual couple to be married? It's a lot different then brothers and sisters.(I mean the real reason behind brother and sister and close relatives not being allowed to marry is because genetically they are too closely related and the result of their reproduction is usually poor and at least with homosexuals you don't have to worry about this). And if these people are the minority then the financial cost of insuring such rights would be sooo minimal.
"My question is this. How do we, as a society, fight bigotry and violence when we continually widen the gap with decisions good for few and bad for the many? Canada is an imigant society and we must consider this when making policy but when is enough, enough? If we continue to allow people to intergrate their cultural structures into ours, then we are no longer a definate entity."
Well, maybe the many are bad and the good are few. I do agree that Canada's current immigration policies aren't great but I don't think it has anything to do with cultural structures. We don't criminal check those applying for status very well nor do we kick them out if they commit felonies, we let the rich in when the economy is good and the poor in when the economy is bad (I am all for social programs but in a capitalist country you can't ask the poor to pay the way for the poor, this would do more harm than good) and we aren't strict enough with our sponsership programs.
Why should you care what kind of "culture" they bring over as long as you have the right to access these cultures?, for example, why do you see a problem if a chinese restuarant opens up if you are allowed to enter? Why should you care if the muslims open a mosk if you are allowed to be a muslim? The only problem I'd have with any other culture being in Canada is if I did not have the right to participate in their culture or they did not have a right to mine....I do however have a problem with some of the laws concerning "racial equality" or "gender equality", such as giving someone of ANY ethnic or religious, etc. background preference over another in a private or public field....But I will say it should be everyone's right to celebrate life and who they believe created it as long as it does not physically impeded anyone from participating or cause physical damage.
"I am trying to get this across without sounding bigoted (because I am not). What I am trying to say is, when my parents arrived to this country they we allowed to practice thier believes and cultural traditions, as are all. We have the freedom to be who we are, but if the country you imigrated from was so great, why did you leave? Let's all celebrate what Canada is and respect the laws of this country! There is a reason people imigrated here, let's try to keep that reason alive, instead of trying to change this country into what we had before."
Jedi, you made not sense in this paragraph. Actually it sounds like you are a bigot but not a racist. It sounds like you like other races but only if they practise a way of life that is very similar to yours. Do you think the Dutch culture was even close to the original Canadian culture? Please tell me what Canadian the culture is or was?
Laws of a country change for a reason, they change as the makeup of a country changes and the needs of a country changes (and they are not always for the better) and unless a magic law comes into effect, they will always be changing. People come to Canada because they think they will be able to provide better for themselves and their family and live without the fear of persecution of beliefs. I personally love the fact that I don't have to travel the whole world to discover other cultures and I feel that having to put up with a few bad apples is a price worth paying for the privilage of being multi-cultural. No other country in the world offers such protection of cultural diversity with the option of becoming one in a melting pot. Live and let live. I've heard your statements many times before from other "non-bigotted" people and the lines that usually follow is that all immigrants are either lazy and/or are criminals and become nothing but a burden to Canadian society..... hardships and crime work hand in hand and has no racial boundaries... and most people in the world are hardworking, law biding citizens....at least if we'd give them a chance to be.
Anyways I'm now the rambling one and if I continue I will fall completely off course, I hope I haven't offended you by giving my opinion. Thanks and take care,