Recently, at another posting board, a person calling himself The Philo started a debate with me. I rather enjoyed the discussion, though it was rather lengthy...So, I'll post here the inital question that he asked and my initial response...there were about eight seperate peices to our debate..I will only post each piece if it is aked for, so as not to waste space on something that doesn't interest anyone..thanks..
"The Philo's Question"
An Argument: What is the source of the human Standard? More specifically, what is the natural Law being adhered to when a
Man says to another Man: "That's not fair!" or "I was there first!" or "I payed for you on Tuesday, spare me a bit of change!" Answer me that.
The last in line did never,
in trying to sever the law,
said "you there in first, now sever
your ties to that thing I just saw!"
For it wouldn't be fair, no it wouldn't,
to say that First didn't belong
where he was: just because you adher to,
a code of life that's just as wrong?
The only thing I have that is even close to an answer for you is this: The "human standard" comes from Humanity. And us humans (men and women alike) have created humanity and we are the ones
who continue to shape and change it. Not every change is agreeable to every person, but sometimes that happens. I myself think that humanity has many, many faults. We as humans a have placed ourselves on a high stool and consider ourselves totally in control, in totally control of our surroundings, everything that
happens in our lives, and that we shall be here forever. "Forever" is a word known only to the heart. Even the greatest of Empires though out history have fallen. And us Americans (please excuse this if anyone is not an American..) believe that we are on top of the world and
nothing can touch us. We claim to have God on our side. But then when has the "opposition" not thought that they were right? If one side admitted they were wrong, there would be no conflict. But
too often, both sides consider themselves "right" and a fight follows. Be it a war, a civil war, or as small as an arguement with a friend, etc..
As for the thing about "I was there first!" I guess that goes back to both sides thinking that they are right, and neither bothering to look at the situation from the other's point of view.
Fair, well, in my opinion, EVERYONE
defines "fair" as something else. Mostly though, our definitions of fair change to fit our needs. What is fair once may not be fair the next time because the situation is different. I don't think there is a "natural law" being adhered to in those situations. As I said, it changes on every situation to fit our wants and need (more often
our wants). I feel that "Humanity" is a sad, sick animal that need some serious medicine. But we can't "put it down" because as humans we could not live without some kind of proposed order. We would run around like chickens without our heads if there wasn't someone telling us what we can or can't do. Everyone would go their way, and no one
would be going the same way. We would be in
terrible trouble. But we complain about the
current system not being "fair", but we never stop to think what we would do without someone helping us along. In my opinion, as a whole, humans are pretty much stupid. I'm not saying everyone is stupid, but the majority is. I am no one to judge, I myself am a human and pretty stupid sometimes. I hope I haven't offended anyone, I cry your pardon if I have. I guess I'd better stifle it now cause I've started to ramble...I really got far before I caught myself
this time...Well, there you go "The Philo", that my answer. I hope I make sense enough that you could at least get an idea of what I was saying. Sorry if I got too far out of it...
sorry so long..hope someone found this at least a little interesting....
Tout s'en va, tout passe, l'eau coule, et le couer oublie.