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0 posted 2003-01-07 04:22 PM


Why can't he understand,  or at
least try to
Why does he always think his way is the best
and only way
Doesn't he realize I 'm now a
grown woman
With a mind and a heart
of my own
I am not his "little girl"
anymore
The one he has to protect and shield
from harm
Being through so much in my past,  I can
handle things
Even when hurt and devastated
I always bounce back
With happiness and vitality and mostly
with more wisdom
He has taught me to be strong
and independent
I 'm thankful that he loves me and
wants to protect
That he wants to keep me from harm
and despair
But why can't he  SEE  this great Love
I 've found
Why can't he see the love and commitment that
my Love and I share
Why can't he be happy for me that I've finally
found my True Love
And that my Love feels exactly the
same about me
Why can't he just realize that we feel the
same type love that

Mom feels for him

And that he feels for Mom

WHY?


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Ethel~
This is a sad situation, and if this is your reality,
then I can't help but think that you should replace
the word 'he' with the word 'you' throughout the poem
and give it to your dad.
Again, if this is your reality, then I do hope that everything
works out for you, and that he begins to understand.
Hugs,
~Vicky

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you have not truly met the poet.
~vlraynes

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2 posted 2003-01-07 05:47 PM


Interesting write gal...hope things work out.....
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3 posted 2003-01-07 07:58 PM


Vicky, I'm sad to say that this is reality. This is the
main reason that Gary and I aren't already married.
As far as giving the poem to my Dad, I honestly
don't think it would help anything. He is so stubborn and
close-minded that nothing changes his mind once he gets
something in his head.
Even though this poem may not sound like it, I love my Dad very much
I've just never been able to please him , it seems. I believe
that I'm old enough to make up my own mind about this, but
Gary is such a good man that he wants my Dad to approve of
our marriage.  
I may have not should have written this, but I needed to get
it out some way. Thanks for listening....  

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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4 posted 2003-01-07 08:05 PM


Thank you, Toerag. I know that it will eventually. I just hope that
I don't lose Gary by putting our marriage off too long.
If it comes to that, I'll just have to do what my heart is
telling me to do.
I guess it wouldn't worry me so much about what my Daddy thinks,
but he's always been such a good Dad in most ways. And, he had open-heart surgery a few years ago and sometimes
I'm afraid he'll have a heart attack if I don't do what he wants
about this situation.
Well, my friend, I certainly didn't mean to reveal all this
personal stuff on these pages, but they seemed to just come
rolling out.

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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5 posted 2003-01-07 08:49 PM


Ethel - why can't he? Because he is your father. I was 46 when my father passed away and he still worried about me and the partner I had at the time....who is now my husband. Maybe you should send him this heartfelt poem and he might loosen his grip on his "little girl." hugs, Chris

"Hope" is the thing with feathers-
that perches in the soul....
                  
                       -Emily Dickinson

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6 posted 2003-01-07 08:56 PM


It's his job and you'll always be his baby that's why, but I do understand this.  
There comes a time when you have to fly on your own wings!

Remember parenting doesn't come with directions.  

Enjoyed this Ethel~


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7 posted 2003-01-07 09:07 PM


if you dont mind my bluntness, how old are u? im 48, almost, so now that i told u, ??
i like this very much; just wondering how old daddys little girl is?

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8 posted 2003-01-07 09:14 PM


This is indeed an eternal story, told with great beauty and phrasing.  Very reminiscent in some aspects of my childhood.  In his enchanting book "The Man Who Talks to Horses", (origin of "The Horse Whisperer" movie with Robert Redford), Monty Roberts tells of how, even while his mother was dying of cancer, she only wanted her son and husband to unite.  Even that atmosphere could not kindle a spark of change in the husband.  Some things just are. Thank you for a beautiful write.  KJ

Through rubble and trouble and dark of night
The yawn of a dawn will hasten the light

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9 posted 2003-01-07 09:55 PM


Chris, I know. He never has and never will think  ANYONE  
quite measures up to what he wants for me.
Thank you for replying and reading me.

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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10 posted 2003-01-07 09:58 PM


Lori, thank you for your reading and reply. It's just
that they depend on me too much, I guess, and I would
have to move about 6 or 7 hours away from them.

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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11 posted 2003-01-07 10:10 PM


inkedgoddess, I'll just say that I'm older than you. But, it
wouldn't matter to my Dad if I was 20 or 90 years old
and he was still living, he would think of me as his
"little girl". I have always been stubborn and self-willed
and kind of rebellious.......just did mostly what I wanted
to do since I left home at 17 (to get away from home &
to get married).  That only lasted for 5 years.
I won't go into the rest of why he is so protective, but
I've been through a lot of heartache in my life. He
just doesn't want me to get hurt anymore, he says.    

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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12 posted 2003-01-07 10:14 PM


thanks for  your honesty,
at least your daddy loves you  though, thats nice for you

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13 posted 2003-01-07 10:15 PM


Ken, thank you for your reply. I saw that movie,
"The Horse Whisperer". It's really a good movie. I haven't
read the book , but will look into getting it. The books
are always better than the movies to me, for some reason.


You are right about "some things just ARE"...
I'm afraid this may just be one of those things.

Thank you...

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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14 posted 2003-01-07 10:23 PM


inkedgoddes,
Yeah, I'm very lucky to have two parents who love me. My
parents have been married for over 60 years, and they don't
understand a lot of things in life. My Mom goes along with
more things than my Dad does without saying anything. He
always tries to make me do things his way.

Thank you for your comments. Oh, by the way, one of my Dad's
concerns is that Gary is younger than me. But he (Gary) says that
"age is just a number".

Well, I'd better shut up before I get  TOO  revealing here tonight. HaHa!!

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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15 posted 2003-01-07 10:30 PM


Ethyl~ This poem hit home with me in many ways. I have 3 grown children, one of which is a daughter and as much as I love all of them, I have never tried to control or choose their mates, that is something only they can do. I offer advise to them all and they talk to me when they want my advise but never will I try to run their lives as it seems your father is doing with you.I know it is hard for him to give up his daughter to another, but he has to realize he's not giving you up, he is just allowing you the same chance to make a life of your own like he had.
You might ask him what would he do if his father in law or father had done like he is trying to do with you, when him and your mother were dating and planning a future together.
There are ways you can be tackful and explain this to him. I hope all works out well.

"To share my poems with you is to share my heart with you"

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16 posted 2003-01-07 10:31 PM


so youre a cradle robber, too,
like that in romance,
cant stand most men my age, theyre just so
dried up

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Thank you, Paul. You sound like a very good Dad.
Yes, my Dad has always tried to "run my life"
(and my brother's, too).
About talking to him, it's like talking to a brick wall, most
of the time. My Mom is my "friend", as well as my Mother,
but I sometimes don't think my Dad even "likes" me,
though I know he loves me.  

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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18 posted 2003-01-07 11:11 PM


inkedgoddess,
Some folks would probably call me that, though Gary hates
for me to even kid about it. In fact, he's probably a lot
older than I am in lots of ways....HaHa!!

BTW, have you ever noticed that when a younger man
and an older woman fall in love, the relationship
(marriage) last longer than when a younger woman and older man
fall in love. I think it's because the younger woman
usually gets bored with her older man. I could  NEVER,  EVER
get bored in any way whatsoever with my Gary. And he likes
the sassiness and stubborness in me. And to make it all
perfect, he thinks I'm  STILL  beautiful.....Isn't that great?? I sure do think so.
We both think the other is beautiful on the inside, as well
as the outside.........

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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19 posted 2003-01-07 11:20 PM


I feel your pain, only my dad isnt around..instead its my mother
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20 posted 2003-01-07 11:34 PM


Heather, have you noticed that one or the other usually
has one of their chidren they can't seem to let run their own life?
Thanks for reading and replying...

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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21 posted 2003-01-08 12:02 PM


Well, I think I understand your Father, but also I understand you. My wife was much older than I, and HER Dad hated me, said I was not good enough, all kinds of stuff.
Anyway, years later he came around.
We were married 23 yrs.
My ex-fiance is/was 15 years younger than me.
She the one i often write about. Yes, agae is just a number...talk to him
Nice write!!


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22 posted 2003-01-08 12:16 PM


Dennis, thank you for reading and replying. I appreciate
your comments. I honestly belive that if my Dad would just  LET
himself really get to know Gary, he would really like him.
They do have lots of thoughts and ideas in common.

BTW, do you mind my asking what happened with you and
your wife?  My husband died after we were married for
almost 23 years, too. Oh, and my Dad never did like him, either.


"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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(tears fall down my cheeks) Oh Ethel, my heart goes out to you, sweet friend, I think this is normal for all families but I do believe you deserve to make your own decisions now! (big hugggsssssss) Share this poem with him and let him know how you feel, for I am sure he will lighten up and you will grow closer than ever in understanding of this situation! (sigh) God Bless You, sweet friend, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Ethel, thank you for sharing!



May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

"Underneath your clothes there's an endless story..."

Shakira

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24 posted 2003-01-08 03:18 AM


Most definately Ethel. My mom was very severe about it not letting me run my own life..she went crazy all through high school and after, so she HAD to make sure i didnt follow in her footsteps. i resented her a lot, and still do a bit, for not letting me experience life as a teen or learn from my own mistakes.
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don't give up hope
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26 posted 2003-01-08 04:25 AM


Noah, if I really felt like it would do any good at
all for me to share this poem with my Dad, I would take
it down there to him this morning. But, I really don't
think he would even read it. He's just that stubborn.
Thank you so much for your compassion and concern.
You are all really sweet......  

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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Heather, I'm sorry that you had to go through that
with your Mother. I hope things will get better with
you two.....

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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Dixie,
Thank you so much for your encouragement. I appreciate
it so much.  

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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29 posted 2003-01-08 06:56 AM


ethel this is nice, really,
as for your comment to me above,
yes,i think the younger woman may just be wiating for daddy to kick off so she could collect the sugar, (actaully i toy with this thought myself to undertake one day)
but for now,
i like em young, not jailbait,of course,
but around l5 less than mine,

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Until I read that he hadn't liked your first husband, either, I was thinking that he just didn't want to lose you... and you being many hours instead of a few minutes away probably seems like you're thinking of moving to the moon... and he resents the one taking you there. *S* And yes, that's controlling... but it's also love, whether stated or not. *S*

But since your choices have never suited him, I doubt you'll change (or open) his mind at this point... but there does come a point where you have to live for yourself instead of someone else. *S*

Wishing you luck!!!

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Me too, I have the same problem but all I can say is easy come, easy go....

God with you dear and we all here with you, I really love the way you write your poem...
Very nice...

Good Luck....

Hugesssssssssss


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32 posted 2003-01-08 10:35 AM


inkedgoddess, you are a mess...I never know what your
response is going to be. You love to just be yourself,
and that's a really good thing.

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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33 posted 2003-01-08 10:42 AM


I know, Suthern Lady,
I just think it's a lot easier to live my own life
when I'm living it closer to them. If I could talk
them into moving closer to where I'll be living,
everything would be solved....at least where my Love
and I are concerned. But I doubt that either of my parents
will agree to that, either. They've lived in the same house
since I was in the eighth grade.....many years ago.
I think if I had more brothers or sisters, it would
be easier on him. But, there's only me and my brother,
and he, as well as the grandchildren, all live far away
from my parents.
Thank you for the well wishes. I appreciate them.  


"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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Thank you, secretlife, for your sweet comments.
I really appreciate them.

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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35 posted 2003-01-08 10:13 PM


No, not at all. Seems we grew apart. Were seperated for 4 yrs, then I got re-engaged, then divorced, then un-engaged. LOL....you asked Read "just sign".
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Dennis, thanks for your answer. Sorry to hear that you
had the hard luck.
I'll go right now to read the poem......  

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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37 posted 2003-01-09 01:13 AM


Hope all goes well and works out in the end. *hugs* I wish I could offer more.

Kielo

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38 posted 2003-01-09 02:09 AM


Ethel hugs, you've read my poetry so you know how i feel about how parents can be, all i can say is don't let it get you down, but of course that would make me a hypocrite, so i'll just say..hugs


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Enjoyed...James
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Ethel,

Age makes a difference for all concerned here. Your parents must be in their 70's....(?) father experienced scare with death, and fear of who will take care of your mother when he's gone...???? Does she have support from family and friends there?
What if you passed away today? What would they do? Or, move away....

Find out their wishes in this regard, (care of your mother) and look in your community to see what is available for independant living - housing for the elderly, maybe get something set now, for when you leave.
Leaving one's home is very difficult at that age....but, sometimes necessary, for all concerned....that is downstream, but maybe you can open the conversation now, and resolve these issues..even if you just bring pamphlets home from a retirement center/housing arrangements....

Not for them to do it now, but to be aware of what is available....they, planning their future....which they should be doing on their own....

unless you plan on "being there" for her the rest of your life. Sounds like you do. Not saying that is wrong....
That is the old-fashioned way...I love the thought....but not very realistic...why can't Gary move to your state? Job, I would suppose....

would  a  pre-nup agreement make your father feel more secure...Gary must be due to inheret, too, though....

Anyway, the decision is ~YOURS~ not anyone else's.....

Can Gary support you? What do you plan on doing with your life when you move there? (besides making mad passionate love and writing poetry) smiling?

How much age difference between you and him???? It does matter, downstream when you are 75 how old will he be?
50?  55?  60?  65? 70?

Why do you have to marry him right away? Move there and get a job, or if money is not a problem, get involved with volunteer work and set up your own household, be independant, and  ~DATE~ awhile....who cooks, cleans, for him now? what will be the status of your marriage???? How does he spend all his time now, when not with you???? Is he involved in his church? Organizations?

Can you really just up and move and start a new life without knowing a lot more?  People do it all the time....some times it works, sometimes not....

And, then there is the God factor....cover as many bases as you can and see what happens..Let go - Let God.

why not take an extended vacation and visit for three (6?) months with him.... that might ease the situation with your parents... if you just go visit awhile...and you can get to know each other...in the real day to day living world...be there long enough for the novelty to wear off!

Just some thoughts, Hugs,  Pat







  

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Ethel,
You do indeed have a young heart. But I did a little math. Well I seem to have some experience about managing difficult relationships. There are people who cannot be persuaded. Which is, in fact, their choice. You MUST live your life and Gary will likely not get what he wants from your dad, as you well know. That doesn't mean a lack of respect, even if taken that way. Sensitivity is a good thing up to a point. I think Gary has reached that point. Get married already! My uncle was at least 17 years younger than my aunt. They had an awesome marriage.

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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Best of luck to you in your personal life.  
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43 posted 2003-01-09 12:24 PM


You know if you just go ahead and get married...he will come around sooner or later...because You are his little girl no matter what.  He just doesn't want to lose you and probably is worried you will move off where he can't keep his eye on you as well.  

I know that feeling all to well about pertective parents...seems my Mother is worse than my Dad though.  


Good Luck Ethel

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44 posted 2003-01-09 04:24 PM


Kielo
James
Raph


Thank you all for your sweet comments and for your
concern and desire to make me feel better. I really
do appreciate all of my friends here at PIP...

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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45 posted 2003-01-09 04:33 PM


Pat,
you brought up a lot of very good questions. But, at
least a hundred times in the last four and a half years,
I have pondered these thoughts.
Sometimes, there seems no solution except to let God take
care of the situations. There is one thing that Gary and I
both are very, very certain of........well, more than one,
actually......we are both certain that we love each other with
every fiber of our beings, we know for sure that we want
to spend the rest of our lives together and we know that our
marriage will take place one day because we don't want to be
with anyone else more than we want to be together.
Our only problem has been that I want my parents (Dad),
to approve of our relationship, and they may never approve.
Thank you, Pat, for your comments and for your concern
for me.      

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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46 posted 2003-01-09 04:37 PM


Larry, thank your for your comments. And also for your
encouragement for us to go ahead and marry regardless
of age-difference and other obstacles.


BTW, sounds like your Uncle and Aunt didn't let other folks
persuade them different than their hearts were telling
them to do. GOOD  for them......  

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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47 posted 2003-01-09 04:38 PM


Opeth,
Thank you for your well-wishes. I really appreciate them...

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

garysgirl
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48 posted 2003-01-09 04:46 PM


Salty,
Yeah, I believe he would come around sooner or later
if we just went ahead and married, because Gary is such
a likable and lovable person that Dad couldn't help
but like him....if he didn't have a heart attack first...
(he tells me things like this almost every time Gary
and I are together for a weekend, even).

About your Mom being protective, mine is, too. She just
lets my Dad handle most of the arguments.....
My Dad has always been verbally abusive in lots of ways......
He does fight this, but he still is at times...

Thank you for the concern and well-wishes. I appreciate all of
my family of friends here at PIP. You all are so sweet and loving.

"Love makes the world go around"
~~with love and hugs from Ethel~~  
                  

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