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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois 
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Hello all! What do you think of Mel Gibson's movie "Passion of the Christ?" Has anyone seen it? Wanting to see it? If I can get in I'll be taking the whole family to see it today. I think it was totally God inspired. I have to commend Mel for doing this inspite of everything. I think it's awesome! What a faith refresher. This is gonna be one of the biggest movies of our time I think. Always critics out there, it's expected, and those who believe will always suffer condemnation for their faith. Your thoughts? <*\\\>< |
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Grover Senior Member
since 2004-01-27
Posts 1967London, ON, Canada |
Yes, our little family wants to see Passion too! I know it's going to be great and will probably open many eyes toward the Lord! Grover. |
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LoveBug
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since 2000-01-08
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I will look back on the day that I saw The Passion as a day that changed something inside. We all get the story "Oh Jesus is God but He became Man and He came down as a little bitty baby and He died for our sins and rose again."... but to see it like this, it makes His love just so much more intense, and so much more wonderful. If you are planning on taking children under the age of 12, don't do it. I'm turning 19 tomorrow, and at one point I had to detatch and calm myself down. I was nearly at the point of hysteria. It is a good movie, and I'm GLAD it was so violent. I think Christianity is too white washed today. It was that intense, and worse. Our sin is that bad, it took THAT to set us free of it.. and He loves us THAT much... "See from His head, His hands, His feet Sorrow and love flow mingled down Did e'er such love and sorrow meet Or thorns compose so rich a crown" Oh, make me Thine forever |
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Joyce Johnson
since 2001-03-10
Posts 9912Washington State |
I haven't seen it yet and am almost scared to. Jim Caveizel who plays Jesus is from my town Mount Vernon, Washington. His dad is a chiropractor and I have been his patient. The whole town is excited about him. His dad bought out the theatre the first night. Joyce |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
Haven't seen it yet, but certainly am planning on it! |
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PhaerieChild Senior Member
since 1999-08-30
Posts 1787Aloha, Oregon |
Can't even get tickets til March 12th showing but definitely plan on going |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
Ours has been sold out here too Shawna. I went tonight and purchased advanced tickets for Sunday. So my whole family will see it Sunday. I'm sure this is the greatest film of all time. I understand Mel Gibson put in like 3 million of his own money on making this? or was it 300 thousand? Whatever it was I'm sure it's been made back and then some. Will be interesting how much this movie made.  God bless! <*\\\>< |
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Trillium
since 2001-03-09
Posts 12098Idaho, USA |
I am not going to see it. Reading about the scourging and crucifixion, brings me to tears. My daughter and her fiance saw it last night and she told me I made the right decision. They found it extremely disturbing, that the brutality lasted for 45 minutes. Is that scripturally correct or is that Hollywood? I do not recall some of the things they saw in the movie, ever being mentioned in the stories of the Bible. Some of the children who were in the theater had to be taken out, as it was too overwhelming for them. Betty Lou Hebert |
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LoveBug
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since 2000-01-08
Posts 4697 |
More like 30 million, Becky. Oh, make me Thine forever |
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Star T Member
since 2002-07-12
Posts 182Philadelphia, US |
The Passion... Definitely the most influential movie i have ever seen in my 19years.Mel dint just make a movie,he had a divine revelation.i saw it last saturday along with the other 20 members of the young adult in my church.it was a deeply touching movie that brought us to tears.one could even hear sobs in the theatre. the violence did nothing but portray the horror Jesus went thru for us and the devil is trying all the excuses he can to stop ppl from seeing this life-changing movie. my perspective on the sacrifice that Jesus made is totally changed,now i know he dint just "die and rise again" i know he suffered,was mocked,spat on everything was forrreal.and thru it all...he never sinned all because he had to redeem us!i can go on and on but all u who havent seen this movie run as fast as u can...ur hope and trust in Jesus will be renewed and so will ur salvation.what i will do is paste the poem i wrote that nite after seeing the movie.will do that tmroow y'all should check it out and holla back. We must not let his suffering go to waste! Jesus died that you might live...accept that and u shall be saved. |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
Thanks krista! I knew it was something like that.Betty, it's up to every individual whether to see it or not. If you choose not to that's fine. I heard that they did over dramatize the beatings. My Dad saw it and said they beat Him the entire movie. However, like Star T said, I think to see what He had been through for us can only deepen ones faith. Like I said before, a faith refresher. Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet still believe. That's where the real faith comes in! I also agree that Satan is at work trying to condemn the film and ppl from seeing it. I was approached at work by someone saying she heard I was taking my childern to it. How even Mel Gibson wouldn't let his children see it. I just walked away. My children are teens and one is knocking at the door of it. With all the violence in this world and everything they're exposed too, I'd much rather expose them to what Jesus went through for them, for everyone, than anything else. The Bible did go into the beating and suffering of Jesus. However I don't think it went into great detail as it didn't go into detail of the thoughts and emotions of the people portrayed there. Humans are cruel and can be very mean. Especially those in "higher" power when they feel threatened. Could they have actually beat him like this? I believe so! I also think it may have been played up a bit, but who am I to say? I wasn't there, I wasn't in Jesus' place. Thank God!!!! I do believe Mel Gibson was divinely inspired. I know he was saying it didn't matter how much or how well something was planned, it went in it's own direction. All the world shall hear the gospel. This was a sign of the end times. Was it Billy Graham after 911? Or maybe this movie? Hmm. something to think about. I missed Billy Graham, but this movie has caught everyone's attention! <*\\\>< |
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LoveBug
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since 2000-01-08
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I don't think the beatings were over dramatized at all... I don't think that anyone could make a movie that anyone could be able to watch if they dramatized it ENOUGH.. PS-I'm Erica  Oh, make me Thine forever |
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BloomingRose Member Elite
since 2000-08-09
Posts 3092Florida |
I saw the movie and it was very good, but at times, difficult to watch. It was the suffering he endured that was so hard. I cried nearly the entire time. There truly is no greater love than for a man to lay down his life. He gave his life. Just like the song says...He could have called 10,000 angels, but he chose not to. That's how much he loves us. Deb |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
Don't I feel sheepish!  Man am I red faced! I'm sorry Erica. I guess I have been away far too long.  <*\\\>< |
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Christioned Member
since 2004-01-15
Posts 93Huddling in the dark |
WHTDove- I'm barley 15 and I went on a youth retreat that took the older of my yuoth group to see this movie the first weekend it was out in theaters. I have never seen anything or ever will see anything like it ever again. The Passion truly changed the way that I worship and believe in my Father above. It was a true eye opener for me. Images from this film are forever burned in to my brain. This is something everyone needs to see, when they are old enough to understand and handle. |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
I have to say I finally saw the film. Was it last weekend? But WOW! What an impact it had on me. I know we've all been taught or can read what Jesus has done for us, but to actually see it really drove it home for me. To actually think or see how much torture and pain He tolerated for us is unbelievable. What he did for us just leaves me speechless. We so couldn't have gone through something like that. I guess I should speak for myself though. I know I could never have endured that. I know what I'm going through at work right now is unbearable, I know I could never have endured such pain. Thank God for all He's done for us. I took all my kids to see it, and I know it's impacted them. When it comes out on video I'd like to own a copy so I can sit down once in a while and really remind myself what's important when I need it. The impact, though great, wears off over time, so this is a good way to keep it refreshed. I'm glad it's changed things for the better Christioned . My husband also said it refreshed his faith. I think this is a movie for everyone to see who is at an age of understanding. One of the best of our time. I don't think it implies anything of any religion, nor does it point the finger at any religion or any one person. It clearly stays with the important message of Jesus and what He did for us. Most excellent. I'm so happy it's making such a positive impact on people. )God bless! |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
Got to see it last week. I agree it has to be one of the best films ever produced. Gibson is a genius. What affected me as much about Christ's sacrifice was the suffering of Mary -- I bawled like a baby! |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
iliana it was an excellent movie wasn't it? The impact Mary had touched my heart as well. From a mothers point of view. From a flesh point of view I wonder if she realized just what she held, raised. What an awesome responsibility she had. Think of that, to birth your own savior! It unconceivable. However, it also made me think of the things Jesus said when he came upon that funeral. (bible) That they're sleeping. He didn't perceive them as being gone or dead like we do. If I think about my brother, I know he's in heaven. I know he's in no more pain. I know he's surround by the ultimate love and peace. But yet, I cry because I miss him. It's really a selfish thing. Though I don't think of myself as a selfish person, but why else do I cry or have so much pain that he's gone? It's for my own reasons. Because when I think of him there in heaven and how happy he must be compared to here, there's no comparison. Thanks for sharing. Didn't mean to run on here. <*\\\>< |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
WhtDove -- I experienced a similar revelation about mourning my father's death when I was in my 20s. He was such a very positive, strong influence on my life in his gentle way. I can't really explain what happened about three years after he died, except to say I believe I had a vision of the afterlife or a close encounter with the Light -- anyway, I was given a vision of my father's form. He was so perfect, no longer in pain........it took all the mourning right out of me and that was the first time I realized how selfish I had been to hang on to him so tightly. I still miss Dad, but I do not mourn for him. It would have been nice for my children to have had his influence, but then again, maybe they do! Sorry to run on, too. |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
That's awesome! I would love to hear about it if you care to email me. Unless that's the extent of it. I love hearing about those things. About near death experiences and such. Some may think it morbid, but it gives us a glimpse of what is to come. Though scary for some, it seems to change lives, bring total peace, and me for one it brings comfort too. I watch a guy on tv, "crossing over," and though I don't necessarily believe in mediums, what he does brings me peace. It's a reminder of where they really are. They're done with their body and have the uncorruptible one. In a way it makes ya jealous your still here in the rough life. Thanks for sharing. You don't have to post it here, if you're willing, and there's more to share I'd love to hear it in an email. WhtDove377@comcast.net <*\\\>< Life may have influenced who we R, but we're responsible for what we become. I don't question YOUR existance- GOD |
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Poet4Christ Member
since 2003-02-19
Posts 211Oklahoma City |
I hope everyone understands the movie was SUPPOSED to be "hard to watch", and it was. Being and artist and a poet I am a very emotional man, and some movies really affect me. I almost totally lost my composure when I went to go see "RADIO", which I highly recommend. It has an incredible message. But when I saw the PASSION I could not hold back. Tears were streaming down my face and it was all I could take but to break into intense sobbing there in the dark. Mel Gibson said himself he didn't want to make a movie to enjoy, but he wanted to create an experience. Let me tell you it is so refreshing to feel the presence of God within the theatre, whenever we take in so much garbage hollywood dishes to us. Sometimes I really get this strange feeling Jesus will come VERY soon and that this film may have a great role to play in prophecy somehow. The Bible does tell us that no man will know the day, but I cannot help but be excited, I cannot wait to thank him for what he did FOR ME there on the cross. Just thinking of the film breaks my heart all over again. May God break my heart again and again... God bless Tim He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered. Proverbs 28:26 |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
Amen Tim! It is a movie I believe should make anyone sob. Anyone who truly understands can't help but break down and sob. It really puts things in perspective. May He truly break our heart again and again. God bless ya Tim! There was also something else that really touched me. I watched this guy who my parents taped on a public television station, and I have to say, he makes a lot of sense. anyone who cares, this is just a peak at his outlook. Please take a look. May still change the outlook of things even more, especially after seeing the movie, one goes hand in hand with the other. http://innerself.com/Spirituality/becoming_spiritual.htm |
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lampwicke New Member
since 2004-03-28
Posts 8Ca. |
Dear WhtDove, I guess sooner or later I knew I would have to comment on this movie of mr.Gibsons.The minute it surfaced in the news media, I instantly felt led not to see it. The question in my heart is:does this movie , like many icons of different denominations,fall into the catagory of "worshipping Idols,or the making of graven images.Now I could be a stickler,and quote scripture,for their are many,but;it is enough for me to love Gods word enough to not tread where I feel my God would not have me go.Of course this is a opinion and my conviction on my heart.I'm sure mr.Gibson,has entered into this endeavor for profit of some kind, we are all aware that hollywood has nothing but pure and noble intent? Although I do not know his heart, he will no doubt reap what he shall sow. thanks for the opportunity to respond. In His love, lampwicke xxx |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
What do you mean by idol worship? The movie? the person who played Christ? or Mel Gibson? I see no idol worship. Idol worship is to worship something or someone as a God. God is our only God. Jesus is God. Whether we put our jobs, money, family, life, cars, whatever it is, if we put that before God, and worship it more than or in place of God, then that is idol worship. Like those who made graven images to worship. They worshiped the images instead of God. So I'm not quite clear where you're coming from. I respect your reasons if you don't want to see it and that's fine if that's what you're lead to do. However, I don't think many worship the movie, but I find it more of a refresher of our faith to visualize what Jesus our savior did for us. I don't see that as idol worship. It is spreading the Word of God, the Good News to the world, just like the Bible is, except Mel Gibson took a part of Jesus' life, the most important part, and played that out for us in a visual effect. You're always welcome to share what you think. |
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MGROVES
since 2004-02-01
Posts 3802california |
no i have not seen the movies either but plan on it. when i asked a nurse coworker of mine about it as she talked the hairs on my arms stood up and chill down my spine. i already feel the pain he went through, dont know if i could actualy handle seeing it, but i know i must. thanks for sharing and reminding me that movie is a must   |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
MGroves, I hope you "enjoy" the movie. It's not that we enjoy seeing what He went through, well ya know what I mean? The biggest impact I think is what He endured for us. That it could have been me going through that if it had not been for what He did. And thinking as it absorbed in that after all He's done for us, why do we still have such a hard time trusting HIM with our life issues? Has HE not gone through everything and more than we could ever go through? Is HE not an understanding God? He did this so HE could be a more understanding God. What an awesome God we have!!! |
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Poet4Christ Member
since 2003-02-19
Posts 211Oklahoma City |
Lamp, Are we as humans arrogant enough to say what God can and cannot use to reach people? So many define God's instruments by thier own emotional definitions. Our God is an incredible God who can use anything to reach somebody, yes even Hollywood. I can assure you God had his hand in this work, for it I definitely felt the hand of God touching me as I watched it. I know it, I know he wanted me to see it. It is very ironic to me that so much trash from Hollywood gets glamourized and praised by so many, but when a holy spirit filled work is produced, satan uses those (even Christians) to attack it. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and I respect yours, but I KNOW what I felt there, and no one will diminish that. God bless you - Tim He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered. Proverbs 28:26 |
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lampwicke New Member
since 2004-03-28
Posts 8Ca. |
dear whtDove, Since you requested a response from me,I shall supply you with one.I shall not elaborate any forther after this response,for debate of any kind is futile,and only leads to strife within anyone choosing to do so. the icon pictures,of the catholic and many orthodox churches(denominations) and many others Who conceived them? certainly they weren't self portraits?If so I would like to meet that person? they were pictures of someones imagination, not God given or posed for? this is a Idol, and /a graven image,even if it is a picture of christ, for you may tell a person that those pictures they have in their homes along with personal alters,candles, that they are not true to Gods word. but then again does this or other denominations rely upon the love of Gods word the bible, since they can bypass hell with different means than accepting Jesus Christ in their hearts. Thank God this is changing, there is not so much ignorance within these religions ,since many members demanded they be allowed to use a bible? as far as an idol, "Grumbling " can be an idol, for we can put our thoughts at a higer place than our God. So even the human mind can deceive itself, with intellectually thinking it is superior to anyone or anything in a persons life? think not? I have seen it,and discerned it many times.I have to ask myself is mr.Gibsons movie for those christians who need to live vicariously through others, or do they have a personal ,deeply loving relationship with him. You will even find out that "time",and even "food", takes a higher order in some christians lives these days,Certainly it shows with the priorities in a christians life,no one needs to judge another to see this process working in anothers selfishness as they walk through life even when sincere in their walk in their lives with their God. It is the human process in us who are not perfect yet. In His love, lampwicke xxx |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
lampwicke I can certainly see what you're saying. I however have to disagree. I think pictures are fine as long as one does not worship the picture. I think they are reminders. Blessed are they who do not see and yet believe. I really don't think God would mind us having a cross hanging on our wall as a reminder of what He has done for us. I personally don't have pictures of Jesus, but I do have crosses. I however do not worship and pray to the crosses. (Certain religions do pray to idols and is that wrong? well according to the Bible yes, but it also states that some are blinded too.) That's up to God to make them see. We can always plant a seed, but it's up to God to make that seed grow, not us. We can plant a seed in the soil, but we cannot make it grow. That's a miracle, that's God who does the work to make it grow. I worship and pray to God, not the items I possess. That's the difference between idol worship and reminders. I also have to disagree about our thoughts being higher than that of God. Now that I consider arrogance. How could we possibly think higher than Him? Can we mere humans explain the making of the earth? making of humans? How the planets are hung? How the ocean does not pass its bounds? Can we explain anything? How little we really know. To say our thoughts our higher than God's is walking on dangerous ground. I would say Mel Gibsons' movie was for everyone, especially those living a precarious life through someone else. After all, Jesus came down to save the sinners, not those who weren't in need. But we all are in need now aren't we? We all sin and fall short of the Glory of God. In a nut shell, I believe the movie was made to depict the belief that Jesus came and suffered for OUR sins. I believe that to be what it portrayed. I believe it to be a wake up call for those of us who have fallen away, or needed a refreshment of our faith. Or just a plain old reminder that we focus too much upon the worldly things of this life, when we should focus upon God, Jesus and making them happy with our actions. If we worried more about what they thought of what we were doing than what people thought, I would tend to bet we wouldn't do a lot of the things we do, now would we? |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
Also... People do things they shouldn't do all the time. That includes Christians. Does being a Christian make one perfect? God forbid. It certainly doesn't. It is the human process. It is the flesh, it IS SIN. We all make mistakes. There's another thing someone said that made me stop and think. We need to think more in the lines of....we are a spiritual being in a physical body, not a physical body with a spirit. I think a lot of people are just caught up in the world around them. But every person will answer for their own actions. So let God be the judge of that. I would have to say that most of the "christians" I have met were critical and judgmental. There's a saying by a Christian band, and it hold so true. The single most cause of atheism today is Christians. Who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle. DCTalk That is very true. We don't bypass things. We don't get away with things. We account for everything we do. The time will come that everyone will account for what they've done. But I also have to say, that we all fail. We all do things we shouldn't do as humans, even as christians. Flesh is sin! Thank God for forgiveness! and a brand new day to start anew. Pray for those who don't see. Pray God directs them in the right path. You can't change their worship, you can't change them. It has to come from within. God moves people, he moves mountains, and he certainly can change faith. I've seen it first hand. Amen Tim. I agree. God can work through anything and anyone to get His message across. Even Hollywood. |
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passing shadows Member Empyrean
since 1999-08-26
Posts 45577displaced |
I haven't seen it yet, but maybe we should all watch this in memory of Rebecca |
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Joyce Johnson
since 2001-03-10
Posts 9912Washington State |
Our White Dove saw this movie in the way it was meant to be seen. In a loving and compassionate way. |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
Becky, I won't forget our conversations.  .....jo |
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PhaerieChild Senior Member
since 1999-08-30
Posts 1787Aloha, Oregon |
I saw this movie just before Christmas and was so hoping to able to discuss it w/Becky. That was not to be as she was able to go home earlier than I had hoped. Maybe when I get there.... Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance. |
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