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0 posted 08-15-2002 12:12 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to Submit your Poem to Passions  View IP for Christopher

Uhm - good luck, or sorry, whichever fits best... blame it on the book i'm reading.  



The Concealed
©2002 C.G. Ward



could she speak less
for moths pinned to the grace of her lips,
or even breathe
as thorns press her throat
with seven flights of scars?

braided,
great ears brim outward
to catch a dove by its little toes.
     and again, they have no toes?
ah, yet these do -
white and green and freckled
like a sun burnt pig.
they dance;
flutter excrement into the waves
of ebon (fine, black) hair,
chuckling at her expense.

let us forget about toes then,
and look to her eyes:
- couvert dans les papillons -
unclothed from the neck up,
bears wisps of consequence
on the tilt of an eyebrow.
     (the cat took the other, I hear, smoked
it off with a pair of pliers and duct tape)

so, one tilt only.

still, I say,
let children beware
a woman who's cancelled debts
through skin tinted blue,
and poetry tendered in blindness.




[This message has been edited by Christopher (08-15-2002 03:49 AM).]

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Duncan
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1 posted 08-15-2002 12:34 AM       View Profile for Duncan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Duncan

Must be some book, Chris!  Many lines that I really liked.  Hell, I liked the whole poem just didn't much understand it...lol.  Still, good to read ya.
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2 posted 08-15-2002 01:26 AM       View Profile for Tiersdin   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Tiersdin

I've read it a couple of times as well and didn't quite understand it. But, yeah... everything Duncan said...

*smiles*
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3 posted 08-15-2002 03:42 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

awww... come on, it's not that hard.

i'm curious to see how others respond to this / interpret it (if they even try). I will give you one hint - the book i'm reading (well, one of them, lol) is "Surrealistic Poetry in English", published by Penguin, circa 1978. A coooooool read.

Anyway, Tier, D, thank you for reading and appreciating.

C

PS - D: this is me being honest... telling what i see, even if it doesn't make sense.
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4 posted 08-15-2002 03:47 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

oh - and "couvert dans les papillons" translates from French to English as "covered in butterflies."

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Ah, now see?  Here I was being engaged by what I thought was something akin to Silence of the Lambs as I understood the French...

sometimes I like being wrong!
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6 posted 08-15-2002 10:06 AM       View Profile for Greeneyes   Email Greeneyes   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Greeneyes

WOW....WOW...I will be back later....but wanted to say amazing sir...
hugssss

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7 posted 08-15-2002 02:34 PM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

I can't reconcile it with all the details you include here, but the impression I got was that of a statue of Justice, presiding over a court of pigeons.

Or doves, what have you.

An interesting piece nonetheless.  I shall be interested to see your true subject unveiled.

*shrug*

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8 posted 08-15-2002 03:43 PM       View Profile for Magician   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magician

I am totally in awe. Excellent poetic piece. Although I am as others, in hopes of learning the true subject of this. lol
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9 posted 08-15-2002 06:27 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I think it's a trick question---chuckling. This reminds me of one those--don't know what y'call em, but "How many hidden images can y'find in this picture" Puzzles. Which I always felt was only partially the point of surrealism--except that the images are more like "ink blot" points of perception--which tells more about the interpreter than it does the artist.

I could be wrong, of course, but you'll have to convince me. Of course. *smirk*
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Christopher--You are such a challange...hmmmm, okay in the first stanza I saw a flower...a very interesting one, and then after that you lost me in the painting I was making in my head.  Funny though, I could actually visualize what you said, sort of like a dream, where making sense doesn't matter or maybe does under the surface somewhere.  

I enjoyed it, yes.
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11 posted 08-15-2002 09:40 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Haha Martie - Welcome to Surrealist Poetry...ever read any? A lot of which seems to play with the contrast between the surface/depth opposition...blah blah modernism etc...shut up already about modernism Kamla...

The peam..

ok, so I really want to SEE the cover of the book now C...but all I can do is piece together what it might look like from this...

I can see Martie's flower for sure (rose) but then there's the freckled sun-burnt dove toes? Hmmm..and this is you being honest...god help us all. Hah. ~shaking head~

There isn't some surrealist painting on that cover is there - of roses and a woman with black hair...(and doves and things)?

poetry in blindness - ok so I'm seeing that as the crucial line in this, the culmination - representing the poetic content of the book...concealment through surrealism...

Hm...and, for you, the cover is representative of the book as a whole?

Now don't be coy...spill..I know I could be completely wrong here (don't want to be of course heh).

Oh, and I like it lol, it has a dreamy quality which is a departure from your other recent works that have been melancholy mixed with a hard edge...which I like too, it's just always good to see diversity in poetical works methinks..

hugs you

mg


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12 posted 08-15-2002 10:31 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

not the greatest view of it, but here's the cover: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=0BESEVUI2N&isbn=0140184864

don't sweat l'il K - you were right this time... I'll break it down a little more and reply personally later. thanks all

C
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Ok C, I'm gonna try and give ya an honest interpretation.  May take me a couple days, what with my attention span, work and I gotta get off here and call Tracey in a couple minutes.  But...I will be back.
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14 posted 08-16-2002 12:00 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

ah see? midi-k? my ass!

it's true...

I am the forgotten middle child...
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15 posted 08-16-2002 12:38 AM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

Bah, entirely unfair.

As if anyone but you have read that book and so would recognize a poetic description of the cover ...

*ducks the wrath of surrealism fans everywhere*

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could she speak less
for moths pinned to the grace of her lips,
or even breathe
as thorns press her throat
with seven flights of scars?

Ok, formed an image much diff than your link, C.  Glad I did so first, cause that pic mighta done it for me.  (I’m way too visual a person).  I see a woman, a beautiful, sad woman, restricting her own voice out of some connection to a loss.  Scars…evident but needing only salve.

braided,
great ears brim outward
to catch a dove by its little toes.
and again, they have no toes?
ah, yet these do -
white and green and freckled
like a sun burnt pig.
they dance;
flutter excrement into the waves
of ebon (fine, black) hair,
chuckling at her expense

This is a fun verse.  Though still filled with loss.  The dove, elusive.  She doesn’t expect to find again but still there is always the serendipity to be considered.  And the consequences (excrement, yuck…really C…lol).

let us forget about toes then,
and look to her eyes:
- couvert dans les papillons -
unclothed from the neck up,
bears wisps of consequence
on the tilt of an eyebrow.
(the cat took the other, I hear, smoked
it off with a pair of pliers and duct tape)

This verse is incredible!  This is where it gets real for me.  Cause it’s the eyes much to my surprise that hold it.  And where I can see the  link pic fitting in.  I prefer my mental pic but ok, we’ll go with yours.  First gotta say…

unclothed from the neck up,
bears wisps of consequence

Truer words have not been written.  Given ya major points for writing reality here.  Cats have got that sense.

so, one tilt only.

still, I say,
let children beware
a woman who's cancelled debts
through skin tinted blue,
and poetry tendered in blindness

One tilt only.  Makes me think of a pinball machine and no second chances once ya rock it a bit too hard.  
And children…perhaps naiveté, trusting at heart though not yet in tune with the true dynamics of the movement.

a woman who's cancelled debts
through skin tinted blue,
and poetry tendered in blindness

I hesitate to even touch this.  As well I should.  What she has dealt those before, will she deal again?


Damn C, glad I went back and delved into this one.  Didn’t take nearly the time/effort I thought.  Maybe I’m just having a good braincell day.  lmao

Ya still awe me.  That’s a good thing.

We got something
We both know it
We don't talk too much about it
Ain't no real big secret
All the same
Somehow we get around it

Tom Petty

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could she speak less
for moths pinned to the grace of her lips,
or even breathe
as thorns press her throat
with seven flights of scars?
==================================

- couvert dans les papillons -
unclothed from the neck up,
bears wisps of consequence
===================================

a woman who's cancelled debts
through skin tinted blue,
and poetry tendered in blindness.
=============================


I wont pretend to know squat about Surrealist Poetry...Ive not a clue as to how this compares or qualifies as such...
I will have to broaden me mothy horizons...
I read this before the pic of inspire was posted, and that first verse blew me away for its imagery and poetic value...
I will confess ya lost me with the "dove toes, the pig and the excrement" and like those metaphors and images--its hard to think of duct tape and pliers as poetic. LOL ..
but the above highlighted verses are very cool and quite stunning...I would have loved to see them in a poem I understood
but ya had me from the moth on lips verse
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And here I thought it was a particularly bad 80's flashback.  *sigh*  ah well, can't be right all the time. haha you know I'm joking     Very interesting style, me likes - especially now that I've seen the cover.  My original thought was close to what Linda was thinking - a statue, or something resembling the lady of justice.  
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19 posted 08-16-2002 01:30 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

sigh....I liked it better in my mind...
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20 posted 08-19-2002 01:55 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

there is, of course, more to this than just a cover... it does actually mean something, lol. I will get to that... uhm, one day, along with a personal thanks to all who've replied to this quirky piece.

hugs n' love

C

ps - midi-k: i didn't forget you... promise... i just have something... heh... special in reply to what you said (as, though k was more on visually, you came to part of the "point" with what you said.)

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21 posted 12-05-2003 09:09 AM       View Profile for Brad Majors   Email Brad Majors   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad Majors

brilliant
 
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