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0 posted 2004-03-29 10:11 PM



This is what I consider a Poetry Challenge/Announcement kind of request.
There are so many talented writers here that express their "spirituality" is so many ways....I know there are a lot of beautiful souls out there
And though a lot of you don't know me well, I would be very thankful for your contribution in this challenge.

My significant other has just been given a diagnosis yesterday. It is extremely serious and he is extremely scared.
He does not believe in life after death, he believes this life is all there is and when you die "nothing" happens, you cease to exist.
He has had a very rough sad life, no hope for his future and no faith in himself. He is lost.
When someone may die long long before they thought they might, what do you say to ease their pain?
Keeping in mind that prayers and wishes mean nothing to this person.
I believe having no hope at all for life or death is the saddest form of existence.
I know you passionate poets have the skill, the inspiration, and the heart to reach out to "lost" ones.
Please write a poem/quote/comment for this lost one, so that his path might seem a little bit more worthwhile to walk.

I don’t want him to live his remaining days thinking his existence is so "limited"

So, the challenge is:  Write a poem from the point of view that everything ceases to exist once a person has died (no heaven,  nothing) and in writing this, prove to the listener why his life is worth fighting for and why it was worth living all along.

I’m thanking you in advance for reading this post and allowing me to grieve openly for ~him~

~*~ Dawn (muted)

© Copyright 2004 Dawn van Krieken-Smith - All Rights Reserved
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1 posted 2004-03-30 09:02 AM



Ah Dawn, I'm so sorry to hear of this.  You've given us a worthy challenge.  My own husband is dealing with a lot of thought of "what is there" after this, as thoughts of "so little time left" looms over him through depression.

I will give this some thought, and hopefully will find an answer to such a difficult challenge...how to lift one when they believe this is all there is....

I'll be back.

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2 posted 2004-03-30 11:10 PM


Quite a challenge, Dawn. It's hard to imagine that a poem is going to overcome a lifetime of belief or, in his case, disbelief.

I am very sorry for his condition and for the pain you must be going through...I wish you both the best.

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3 posted 2004-03-30 11:33 PM


This is a noble and loving statement/request, Dawn.  Clearly, you care a great deal for him.
I understand his point of view.  I'll give it some thought and perhaps I will be able to offer some support.
With all due respect to your conclusion, however, I do not think he is "lost" and I would not suggest anything of the sort.
I'll come back to this.

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4 posted 2004-03-30 11:44 PM


I apologize for being a bit confusing  

I understand poetry will not overcome a lifetime of beliefs, I think the poetry is more for "peace of mind". And I do apologize for saying he was "lost". It wasnt the correct term to use, but he has stated he is "confused" about how he should feel about his life. He is not happy, I know that much. Maybe hearing inspirational words without a spiritual focus could lend to a more positive environment for him (and me) at this point.

Unfortunately, Our path has been so rocky that i am unable to say the words he "wants to hear", but i still care deeply, and i still want him to know there is worth to his life.

thank you for visiting this post  
any input is well recieved and appreciated

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5 posted 2004-04-06 05:19 PM


I would hope that simply the fact you are standing with him, caring..Indeed, loving him, would be proof enough that (so far) his time spent here has already been worthwhile.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again..Love matters! To me, Love, in its many forms, is the point of it all. It might just be the only robe we'll wear at the end.

And a "believer" or not, if this man knows Love, he also knows G-D

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6 posted 2004-04-06 11:16 PM


"I've said it before, and I'll say it again..Love matters! To me, Love, in its many forms, is the point of it all. It might just be the only robe we'll wear at the end."


Thank you



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7 posted 2004-04-07 11:31 AM


Dawn~

I know exactly how you feel....after a month of going through this with my significant other.....it scared him as well into questioning things he wasnt ready for....words thus far have failed me so I may ponder on this for awhile....it takes so much courage to be where you are, if you need to talk please email me....holding you and yours close in thought....and prayers....heart hugsss dear one...

Lauren~


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The sound of silence calls,
I hear your voice and suddenly
I'm falling, lost in a dream
The echo of our souls meet
~~**~~

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8 posted 2004-04-07 11:59 AM


Thank you Lauren so much for your reaching out in friendship....I hold you and your S.O. in my wishes as well..
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9 posted 2004-04-13 09:42 PM


I too share in this belief, and have done so since the age of ten. I feel a great deal of sadness when i hear that another person feels this way. As soon as i discover something that will give me any kind of consolation, be sure that will post it here for you...

another day passes by and all i see are the rings under my eyes. oh why oh why cant i see past my eyes!!!!

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10 posted 2004-04-13 11:50 PM


Dawn, I will set my mind and heart to work on your request/challenge tonight, whcih I just now read. I wrote one long ago that might work for you, but think I'll spend a day or so to compose one specifically for you and your companion. What is his favorite color? favorite musician or artist? Somehow, knowing just a little more might help me to personalize the write.
While you may now have to be strong for two, you needn't carry the load alone. Allow us to share the weight of this burden.
Heart hugs to you, Kacy

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11 posted 2004-04-14 12:36 PM



thank you both for your very generous support

his favourite colour is black, he adores Frank Zappa, he loves a good cup of turkish coffee, he loves his cigarettes (which are a very large part of the health problem), loves telling jokes and drinking guinness (he is from Ireland)...

I suppose you could say he is a blokey bloke, LOL...very rugged.

thank you for letting me share, and for dedicating time to all of this.....
i want to share my burden, but i dont want to weigh everyone else down either.

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12 posted 2004-04-14 12:43 PM


/pip/Forum88/HTML/003659.html
This is a rewrite from one I posted last year. Now, I will set to work on an original one for him.

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13 posted 2004-04-14 12:22 PM


I am printing this thread and will try to write one.....you have my love and prayers, as does your loved one
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14 posted 2004-04-15 12:50 PM


I am so sorry to hear of your partner's unfavorable diagnosis. However, he is fortunate in that he has such a loving woman by his side.

I must admit, that it is not in me to write from the viewpoint that life on this planet is all there is, thereby trying to make someone cling to life before they inevitalby sink into a void ~ into an abyss of nothingness! That would only make one fear death ~ which is inevitable for all of us. Nor would I encourage one to seek an earlier demise just to go to that Shangri-La in the sky! There is a divine order to everything.

What I can say is that life is a special gift and that we should squeeze every minute out of it until our days have come to an end and we soar to that place of ultimate peace and joy.

Sending a rainbow of healing Lights and lots of love to you both,
EA

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15 posted 2004-04-15 01:48 PM


hey, this is for you sweeties....
    

Thanks Jellybeans, Earth Angel, and again Midnitesun...

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16 posted 2004-04-16 09:33 PM


Muted one, I am so sorry to hear this.  Hang in there and      ......jo
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17 posted 2004-04-16 11:25 PM


to you too Jo, thank you for reading, supporting, and always being a kind heart
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18 posted 2004-04-17 07:11 PM


My heart foes out to you.
How about I write one about my grandfather.

Juju

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19 posted 2004-04-18 01:40 AM


Juju, that would be lovely..thank you
i look forward to reading it.

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20 posted 2004-04-18 09:13 AM


Dear Dawn, I have read your post a few days ago. I am sorry to hear this sad news.

I have listened deep within my heart and I have come up with what is coherent with my own beliefs.

I wish your Significant One to cope as serenely as possible with these challenging times.

Sending love and hugs. Margherita

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21 posted 2004-04-18 09:35 AM


Dawn, nothing new has come to me, so I searched in the archives, and would share this with you, and him...
/pip/Forum82/HTML/002287.html

with my love.

K

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22 posted 2004-04-18 11:47 AM


Margherita..thank you you are a sweet soul.

Sunshine... i read the link, thank you thank you for allowing me to read it and share it..you are an amazing writer
and a caring heart.

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23 posted 2004-04-20 10:41 PM


Dearest Muted,
I am fairly new to pip, however I have read some of your posts. With great feeling, I read and understand where you are, however, not where your going. Perhaps I am headed in the same direction without a map!~
I look forward to seeing the results of the
challenge of life!!!
Sincerely,
pictureme

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