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A Study Of Loss

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catalinamoon
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25 posted 06-03-2002 11:25 AM       View Profile for catalinamoon   Email catalinamoon   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit catalinamoon's Home Page   View IP for catalinamoon

I think it has all been said, except maybe this..Wow!
Sandra
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26 posted 06-03-2002 12:32 PM       View Profile for RMW   Email RMW   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RMW

Severn .... Arthur has said it best. Bob
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27 posted 06-03-2002 04:22 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

I've always wondered why there has to be loss. . . I've been wondering it since the age of 10. . .

I realize now why there is loss. . . loss is the lesson that we have to know when we find. . .

quote:
It doesn’t work that well though, little one,
when your omelettes are burned
on one side and nothing changes but location.

not even if I use a non-stick pan??  I like this phrase here, this answer to the unspoken question. . .

quote:
They have both left fairytale.

I noticed. . . not, "they have both left the fairytale" (or, "their fairytale" or "my fairytale"). . . as though "fairytale" is a being, a place. . . or a state of mind. . . very impactful here. . .

quote:
Vessel-like, I emptied pain into my palms
and hoped for better days.

have you ever noticed that our hands aren't solid??  and that you only hold the bigger parts?  that's what you're doing here. . . holding on to the bigger parts. . . it's time to open your fingers. . .

this is superb. . . it's full of images and words that fit the realm of the mind perfectly. . . it's a trip, a journey, a look back, a look forward. . . and it's a goodbye. . . yes. . .



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To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world.

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28 posted 06-03-2002 04:56 PM       View Profile for Cirrus   Email Cirrus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cirrus

I'm at a loss for words
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29 posted 06-03-2002 06:43 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

sigh...

more thank you's and hugs...still no time to reply individually like I want to...

god, you people are wonderful..

K
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30 posted 06-04-2002 08:10 AM       View Profile for Jamie   Email Jamie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Jamie's Home Page   View IP for Jamie

I can't see through clouds
but I can offer an umbrella
for when the rain comes too hard
and an extra pair of hands
when yours overflow with pain

truly, you rock tigs

   J


[This message has been edited by Jamie (06-04-2002 11:28 AM).]

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31 posted 06-04-2002 10:52 AM       View Profile for ethome   Email ethome   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit ethome's Home Page   View IP for ethome

This is so very sad. Your expressions and life references are incredible. You're a special poet in your own gifted way. I stay truly amazed at how such sadness produces such poetic beauty.
This is truly remarkable and believe me when I tell you my heart is with you!
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32 posted 06-04-2002 08:51 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Finally, some time for some personal replies...

Sy - I also seem to do the revealing thing, but usually at different levels..this one was particularly revealing I agree..Thank you Sir.

Martie - again, thanks to both you and Taylor for your care and concern - very sweet...huggles. Yes - it's not so much expectation, as it is the fact of simple loss.

Noah - well, my adolescent days are past, you'll find as you move into your 20's that loss is as unavoidable as bad weather. Freedom has a price...thanks..

J - replied to you later..

midi K (heh) - smiling here...nothing you say is silliness..and do we ever see ourselves how others see us? I certainly appreciate the way you see me, and thank you for it dear...cuddles.

Lyra - thank you. Emotion has a way of bleeding itself through words sometimes. Sometimes it's the only recourse..

J - lol...still later..

Nancy - thank you for responding in such a way that you felt this...

C - ah well. Later on, when I have yet more time, in fact - maybe in two weeks or more - we can discuss this properly yes? In the meantime, just a few things. After much thought - for now, I'm keeping the eggy thing, cause I like it. So there. Also - please go and put 'nevermind' into your spell check. Compare it to 'Never mind' Heh. Sticking out tongue. Seriously though. Your effort made me say a mental '...' and I am still very very touched by it. You have honoured my creativity, and the feelings that inspired my creativity. Thank you hon. Definitely more later..

Ruth - so nice to see you my friend. No, it is never easy to accept, no indeed. Thankees..

S rider - this is a nice way of seeing it: zero hour moments. These are but a few of those too lol...Although, loss is sad, I'm aware it does add strength to our character...

Chelle - I do indeed get the gist..In fact, I would say that's a very accurate assessment. Locked away behind glass - I like it. Thank you hon.

Walty - you a pooh fan too eh? haha...this is a special pooh...and a special roo and wol (dare not say owl...) thanks you

Duncan - without being trite, I'll just say that sometimes it is not what is said, but what isn't that expresses the most. Your response fits the latter category for sure. Thank you..

Mr thunder - smile. What you said is quite sufficient and thanks for it, and the hug...

Furlong? - FURLONG?? - Gasp. Even though I wormed it out of a certain furry someone how you came to see this, I'm still shocked...and terribly sorry about the non de plume heh...huggles huggles huggles. You know how I feel right?

JamesM - thank you. Time is the answer, it's said. I have my opinions on that...perhaps it's all relative...

Core - hey girl. I could say the same of you, having just read the mushroom poem which really blew me away. Thankees..

Marge - been awhile Thank you so much for stopping by. Glad my thoughts touched you lady..

Coy - smile. We all have these journeys do we not? some more than others...would it be biased to say that a poet's heart is often journeying more than many others? Probably, but that is how it feels...thank you hon.

DS - as always your thoughts are appreciated. It's all quite mutual mr poet.

Nani - huggles...and thanks for reading my wail ~grin~ re-reading? You know there's no greater compliment..

arthur - you're welcome, said as solemnly as the thank you..

Sandra - a wow is always good lol...it means that someone is kind of speechless, and THAT is a really nice thing to think that one's poetry has achieved..

Bob - then you may read my reply to Arthur and join in the solemnity...

Sven - ah, then a fellow sufferer of early loss. Not a nice thing to think on is it? Yay, someone likes the egg image (so there C)...And in a way, this fairytale was a place. A state - a happy place, like a square of comfort and security. All hemmed in at the edges - gone now though. Huggles, and thanks for the reply - muchly appreciated..

Cirrus - yes, it seems you are.

Jamie - that's precious dear. You rock too, Pooh. Don't be go leavin' any fairytales k? Hugs hon...Sound of music soon...

Ethome - I think many hearts have experienced this kind of loss, the burning kind - that leaves you unable to be the same again. Thank you for your empathy, and the compliments and for reading..


thanks again all -

K
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33 posted 06-05-2002 03:09 PM       View Profile for Jamie   Email Jamie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Jamie's Home Page   View IP for Jamie

Blossom of snow may you bloom and grow
Bloom and grow forever.

J

From Edelweiss of course
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34 posted 06-07-2002 01:26 PM       View Profile for jellybeans   Email jellybeans   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for jellybeans

wow........love this, from beginning to end, from the style and tone, to the images....unfortunately, I can relate to this all too well, you could have written 'me' instead of she.....great write lady
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35 posted 06-07-2002 07:51 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

K,
Such an impactful poem. I'm not toying with life's sorrows when I tell you in some ways it made mine pale by comparison. Very well done. Thank you for sharing such a personal poem.
S Arthur Grey
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36 posted 06-07-2002 09:03 PM       View Profile for S Arthur Grey   Email S Arthur Grey   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for S Arthur Grey

I agree with Marge . . . leave that quilt line in there.
Complex piece.
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37 posted 06-07-2002 09:05 PM       View Profile for Duncan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Duncan

Singing alone in the nights, singing ‘watching
bridges burn, everybody has to go.’
Funny, the stars have ceased to answer.
Maybe it’s because I live in a city
and I can’t see the sky anymore.

Just me, again...reading a bit differently this time.


Forgetting all I'm lacking
Completely and complete
I'll take your invitation
You take all of me

Lifehouse

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38 posted 06-08-2002 02:34 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

i KNOW never...mind is two words... so, if you van tell me you never modified a word, or created one, then i'll accept that arguement. otherwise, it was simply a preference, wanting to push it out in one shot, to heighten the impression of "putting it off."
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39 posted 06-08-2002 02:35 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

oh, and it's one week now.
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40 posted 06-08-2002 06:11 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Jpooh - affectionate smile. Yay...

Jbeans - hon, I think so many can relate to loss, and the suffering of it. And the reluctant acceptance..thank you dear.

Larry -   Thank you for your reply, and you know what? Honestly, I don't believe in comparison - everyone's loss is as vital, as near to the heart, as another's. Maybe it isn't felt the same, or to the same degree...but if a loss is felt, and it grieves - why do we need degrees? I know of the recent loss you yourself have suffered, and I know you know the nearness of loss - and how it rips inside. Hugs to you, in your empathy, and time of sadness.

Sir Arthur - I like it myself, that line - it says a lot, simple though it may be. Thank you so much for reading.

Duncan - as I say re-reads are always so gratifying and such a compliment. I appreciate yours, cheers..

C - phooey. Sticking out tongue...no WAY am I making never mind, nevermind...blech. BLECH I say. Heh...oh - I forgot, the song - who else could it be but Travis?

And I know! YAY BOUNCE. Hard to believe yes?

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41 posted 05-09-2003 01:56 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

a bump up cos i want to read later
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42 posted 05-09-2003 05:27 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

I know I've read this, I know I did.

Where in the world is my response?

Sigh.

Here now, with great understanding...
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I always like to see someone bringing up an archived poem so we can enjoy it again or read something we missed the first time around.
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44 posted 05-09-2003 11:17 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

Hi K,

I can't help picturing myself as Red Riding Hood, gushing "Oh what magnificant writing this is!" and you as the big black wolf answering "Oh, all the better to read me with!"...heee, pardon my corny ways

Tell me, does it bother you when a poem is successful and readers build their elation upon your sore spots? I feel chilled and empathetic but I must confess the satisfaction of reading a well-written poem outweighs all other emotions...and it was rather delightful trying to peel all the layers of this onion-piece

***************************
in the faces of the kindly, patronising nurses
~you had me checking the dictionary to double check the meaning of "patronising"...and this one word made me relate instantly to the author--there are a lot of emotions i can deal with but not sympathy. I hate it when people put up with more than usual from me because they are sorry

We were at war, but really, I know he tried.
~I could feel an outpouring of emotion surging within myself as i read that line...for the roles of the parent-child have been reversed here and it just isn't fair that the child should be more mature and indulge the fancies of the parent

It’s a pity the peace has died again
over something as inane as a plate.
~think Chris might have said something similar but in any case, you made me realise that as a poet, it isn't necessary that your poem should comprise of details understandable by the reader...i don't know what's up with the plate (perhaps the author broke it) but it doesn't matter

nothing changes but location.
~another outpouring of emotion...its understated tone just makes the reader feel more...perhaps because the reader has to work a bit harder before he realises the intent of this line...so when he does get it, he feels included in a secret with the author and snorts at oblivious readers who pass it by...appeals to the superiority complex!

Like quilts  - it takes years to unravel patterns by a thread.
~clever

and the weight of a smile.
~loved this

My friend and I, we walked tonight, and in the rain,
under the streetlight, I said ‘it’s only two weeks away
and you never ask how I am.’ Apparently,
he doesn’t know what to say, because of history.
~I like this stanza a whole lot...you know you might have lost a friend when he is apprehensive of reaching out to you...then you start obsessing about camaraderie, about how friendship can't stand the test of time, whether it all has been a lie etc etc etc

Vessel-like, I emptied pain into my palms
and hoped for better days.
~Fabulous!

 
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