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ecrivan
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0 posted 2002-05-03 09:23 AM



If its romance, it gets read
if its a joke, it gets said;
if insightful, you may get zero
and spiteful, remember Nero?

what to choose depends on me
what you read depends on thee;
what I think is what I say
not all worlds are made that way.

if its paper it gets folded
if you're snarky you get scolded;
in doubt of reason? questions get asked
when accused of treason, judgement goes to task.

time ticks on, from ant hills, army ants spill
soils around bore the fruit of seasonal tills;
questions are asked when reasons are planted
judgement is tasked, what are my chances.

what stations show, depends on public view
what restaurants serve, depends on something new
what to choose depend on me
what I get depends on thee.

if its a narrative, it gets fed
it gets hollow when veins are bled;
if insightful,remember Nero
and spiteful, close to zero?




[This message has been edited by ecrivan (05-03-2002 09:26 AM).]

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Marsha
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1 posted 2002-05-03 11:46 AM


Martin darling boy This is seriously excellent writing, the flow of this is perfect, the internal pace and the construction cannot be bettered. And the form perfect absolutely perfect. What on earth this was doing so far down the page with no replies I don’t know however it’s now bumpity bump to the top of page one. Where others can read it

I really love your style Martin it is excellent

  
Love and warm stuff
As always
Mushy


To give light to them that sit in darkness..... to guide our feet into the way of peace Luke 2:79


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2 posted 2002-05-03 12:45 PM


time ticks on, from ant hills, army ants spill
soils around bore the fruit of seasonal tills;

i liked the above two lines very much...i will like that mental image turned into a haiku...

i liked the way how you asks and answers your questions at the same time...good technique...

may i ask though:what is the meaning of Nero? my dictionary doesn't include the entry...

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3 posted 2002-05-03 12:52 PM


Nero 37-68 A.D.

"Famous as the emperor who "fiddled while Rome burned", Nero is one of the more interesting characters to wear the imperial purple. The first five years of his reign were considered the "Golden Time" of Imperial Rome. However, he was more passionate about the arts and chariot racing than he wa about governing the Empire, which soon made him extremely unpopular with the army and the Senate. Emotionally and psychologically unstable, having a flare for the dramatic, and possessing nearly unlimited resources made Nero a truly shocking figure at points during his reign. On the good side, he was responsible for one of the greatest flourishing of the arts in the history of Rome. In the end, several rebellions and mutinees brought about his death through suicide. He was the last of the Julio-Claudian emperors."
http://www.ga.k12.pa.us/academics/MS/8th/romanhis/nero.htm

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4 posted 2002-05-03 01:11 PM


oh the irony. i can't wait to see how this reign ends. understood, agreed - think of it this way: working off the inverse rule... if less = more, then zero = perfection!

Chris

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5 posted 2002-05-03 03:31 PM


well Chris,

A pleasure to have your comment, yes my writes do seeth with ironical statements..Nero was popular to himself and his following so we have been given to understand but his mention now and again in Italian conversations..mean quite the contrary..he had fervour and was known for his extreme pleasures.


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6 posted 2002-05-03 03:33 PM


Raz,

there's no mention of the fire he set in Rome and he plotted his Mom death's lot's of in fighting at that time...thanks for the quote..quite helpful


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7 posted 2002-05-03 03:36 PM


faterider,

Thanks to Raz, you know who Nero was stay tuned for more wit and irony!Keep in touch


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8 posted 2002-05-03 06:38 PM


Some p-d off stuff. Like the ants coming from the tilled soil.
Raz
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9 posted 2002-05-03 08:25 PM


Nero, at least as depicted by Tacitus, appeared as more of a coward than a man of the arts. The whole implied incest deal with his mom, the failed attempt on her life, the successful one... all a bad deal.

-Raz

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10 posted 2002-05-03 08:50 PM




BRAVO!!! And I also believe that it is not always wise to go with what is popular overall and lose ourselves in that trend, it is better to be popular with your own original beliefs and to trust your instincts, for then after all we may lose our identities following the same old ant march! (big hugggssssss) This is so very provoking, sweet friend, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Martin, thank you for sharing!



May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

"Underneath your clothes there's an endless story..."

Shakira

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11 posted 2002-05-03 10:41 PM


see what i mean? irony at its finest!
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12 posted 2002-05-03 10:55 PM


...what I think is what I say, not all worlds are made that way.
I believe the first verse was one of my favorites. I always appreciate your humor, your honesty and your talent for bringing a smile to such a dizzy world. ThisDiamond

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13 posted 2002-05-03 10:57 PM


...what I think is what I say, not all worlds are made that way.
I believe the second verse was one of my favorites. I always appreciate your humor, your honesty and your talent for bringing a smile to such a dizzy world. ThisDiamond

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14 posted 2002-05-03 11:05 PM


I agree...some irony at its finest and a lot of truth said. I am curious about one thing, though.....

what to choose depends on me
what you read depends on thee;

changed by the end to....

what to choose depend on me
what I get depends on thee.

I'm curious as to whether that was intentional or not or perhaps I'm simply over-analyzing.
The first couplet says to me that you are going to choose what you want and if it is read, fine and, if not, fine too whereas the second one says to me that your satisfaction is based on the responses. Of course I may be reading it all wrong....I am prone to do that....just curiosity.

I salute the writing
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ecrivan
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15 posted 2002-05-05 01:45 AM


Balladeer,

Not over analyzing at all, that is the hidden message here, there is a greater pleasure seeing what the poem does for people, and I am not less satisfied than any average poet..liken more comments. That said I will still write what is pertinent for me even though I risk getting no comment at all...one can click and comment or disregard, the message of the poem is what's important in the end, not the number of comments...
so there is actually no reversal of opinion in the two separate couplets you quoted, one couplet is carefully distanced from the first to add to remind you of it and add to it too


[This message has been edited by ecrivan (05-05-2002 01:49 AM).]

ecrivan
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16 posted 2002-05-05 01:50 AM


Chris,

Your comments coincide with one of my better writes to date..love to use wit at work and play.


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