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Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly.

In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

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Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too. In an AP survey done in 2011, 52 percent of non-Hispanic whites expressed anti-Hispanic attitudes. That figure rose to 57 percent in the implicit test. The survey on Hispanics had no past data for comparison.

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The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans. Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ap-poll-majority-of-americans-still-express-negative-view-of-blacks/2012/10/27/421d683a-2009-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_story.html? tid=pm_politic s_pop


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Colin Powell's former chief of staff condemned the Republican Party on Friday night, telling MSNBC's Ed Schultz, "My party is full of racists."

Retired Army Col. Lawrence Wilkerson made the comment in response to Mitt Romney campaign surrogate John Sununu's suggestion on Thursday that Powell's endorsement of President Barack Obama's re-election was motivated by race. Wilkerson, who served as Powell's chief of staff when the general was secretary of state during the first George W. Bush term, told Schultz that he respected Sununu "as a Republican, as a member of my party," but did not "have any respect for the integrity of the position that [Sununu] seemed to codify."

When asked by Schultz what, if anything, the remark said about the attitudes of the Republican Party, Wilkerson said:

My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/lawrence-wilkerson-colin-powell-sununu_n_2027721.html

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I think America is currently in a Cold Civil War. The parties, of course, have switched sides since the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The party of the Union and Lincoln is now the Democratic party. The party of the Confederacy is now the GOP. And racial polarization is at record levels, with whites entirely responsible for reversing Obama's 2008 inroads into the old Confederacy in three Southern states. You only have to look at the electoral map in 1992 and 1996, when Clinton won, to see how the consolidation of a Confederacy-based GOP and a Union-based Democratic party has intensified - and now even more under a black president from, ahem, Illinois.


http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/the-gops-geography-and-the-confederacy.html

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3 posted 2012-10-29 01:44 PM


AH, yes, the race card, the last gasp of a desperate party.
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Republican State Rep. Jon Hubbard published a book entitled, “Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative,” and using highly sophisticated oppo research skills that Republicans complain about, I read some of what he wrote.  What Jon Hubbard writes and believes will blow your hair back.

From reading Hubbard’s writings, it is clear he believes that African-Americans are lazy, ignorant, lack discipline and that they should be thankful they were once enslaved.  My previous sentence is inflammatory, but that is what Hubbard has basically written in his book. And by the end of this post you’ll believe I even held back a little.

Let’s start looking at the extreme words Hubbard put to paper.

First, Hubbard believes that slavery was, in the end, a good thing for African-Americans:

“… the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.” (Pages 183-89)

Here is what Hubbard is really saying: Hey black folks, yeah, I know, we kept you in chains for hundreds of years, beat you, raped your women, lynched innocent teenagers, destroyed your families, but isn’t that really a good thing?

Hubbard believes integrating schools is harmful to white students because, in his opinion, blacks are lazy, have no discipline and are causing a decline in education:

“… one of the stated purposes of school integration was to bring black students up to a level close to that of white students. But, to the great disappointment of everyone, the results of this theory worked exactly in reverse of its intended purpose, and instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students. To make matters worse the lack of discipline and ambition of black students soon became shared by their white classmates, and our educational system has been in a steady decline ever since.”  (Page 27)

Hubbard believes blacks are too ignorant to know the value of a good education:

“Wouldn’t life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education?”  (Page 184)

Hubbard believes black folks were lucky they were once enslaved because living in Africa is bad:

African Americans must “understand that even while in the throes of slavery, their lives as Americans are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa.”  

“Knowing what we know today about life on the African continent, would an existence spent in slavery have been any crueler than a life spent in sub-Saharan Africa?” (Pages 93 and 189)

Here is where Hubbard basically says black folks are lazy and don’t do anything worthwhile:

“… will it ever become possible for black people in the United States of America to firmly establish themselves as inclusive and contributing members of society within this country?”  (Page 187)


http://talkbusiness.net/2012/10/rep-jon-hubbard-slavery-a-blessing-in-disguise/

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The friction detonated this week when Doug Preisse, the influential Republican Party chairman of Franklin County, which includes the state capital, Columbus, was quoted in The Columbus Dispatch newspaper as saying, “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter turnout machine.”

Democrats and black leaders lashed out. State Senator Nina Turner, a Democrat from Cleveland, told The Plain Dealer of Cleveland on Wednesday that the comments were “flat-out racism.” The Rev. Al Sharpton said on his MSNBC talk show, “You just can’t make this stuff up.”

Mr. Preisse has sought to tamp down the fury, saying in a statement that his comments, which The Dispatch said were e-mailed to the reporter writing the article, were “misconstrued, and in some cases misquoted entirely.”

“However,” he added, “if my comments, either in their original form, or as repeated in other ways, have caused anyone discomfort, I regret that.”

Matt Borges, the executive director of the state Republican Party, stoked the controversy when he was quoted in The Plain Dealer as saying that Mr. Preisse thought his comments to The Dispatch were off the record.

Democrats seized on the comment. “Incredibly, Borges’ remarks suggest Doug Preisse’s gaffe about suppressing African-American voters would somehow be more appropriate in a conversation not for attribution,” the state party said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/us/politics/ohio-early-voting-battle-flares-after-racial-comment-by-republican-official.html

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6 posted 2012-10-29 10:07 PM


" and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president"

Of course not....nothing to do with raising the debt to 16 trillion, having 15 million more people on food stamps, having 22 million people unemployed, lowering the value of the average middle class family by over 4,000 per year, squandering the billions of the stimulus money without producing the results he promised to produced, not producing a budget in his entire presidency that could be passed by the house that not even democrats would vote for....etc, etc, etc....

All race.....right. As I said, the last act of desperate men. Obama would be a sub-standard president if he were purple...or lily white.

I'm assuming that the blacks who voted for him and now have changed their minds to vote against him (and there is a very large number, including some very influential characters)must all be just Uncle Toms.......just another excuse for Obama to use, as he has used dozens more.

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7 posted 2012-10-29 10:59 PM


If republicans had been at all concerned about the legacy left by George W. Bush I might buy that argument mike.  But, it looks a little like the Brooklyn bridge.
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8 posted 2012-10-30 06:12 PM


An excerpt from an article by Newsweek, referring to Obama. I ask the same questions....thank you, Newsweek.

"By Matt Patterson (columnist – opinion writer)
Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?
Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer;" a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions.
He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?"

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9 posted 2012-10-30 11:21 PM


Just more of the same, fact-free, racist vituperative we're so used to Mike.
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10 posted 2012-10-31 12:26 PM


I see nothing non-factual there nor anything that relates to race...but it is not surprising that you do, since race seems to be the chant of the moment.
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11 posted 2012-10-31 09:06 AM


I am curious, Mike.

Are facts important?

Are the statements of the candidate that you want important?

Are the fact that they change important?

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12 posted 2012-10-31 11:10 AM


Call a rock bread and try to eat it, Brad. The fact will break your teeth.

What the candidates say are largely unimportant. They are trying to get elected. Are the facts that were reported in the article important with regards to Obama's background and lack of any viable experience important? Considering the, er, fact that the results are validated by his inabilities to perform a job he was not qualified for, yes, makes them valid, or at least important.

LR contends that the republicans are the race-baiters when, in fact, going back through the history of the past 50 years, facts will bear out that the opposite, in fact, are true.

Obama was asked months ago (and, no, I don't have the link) if the race card would be used in the campaign and his response was "Not uless we have to."

Apparently it has gotten to the point where they have to.

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Anyone who did not vote for Obama before
is a racist period.  Anyone who does not
vote for Obama now is a racist period.
Simple.


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14 posted 2012-10-31 04:51 PM


SOmeone mention race.....??



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15 posted 2012-10-31 05:09 PM


'the chant of the moment'.....

More racism

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16 posted 2012-10-31 05:12 PM


A little quick on the draw again Mike?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/10/chain-email/obama-didnt-write-that/

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17 posted 2012-10-31 05:33 PM


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By the way, any Republican who criticizes Mao Tse-tung
is a racist.


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18 posted 2012-10-31 05:35 PM


Good grief!  A staunch Republican actually having the grace to move away from silly political partisanship and praise a good President doing a great job.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/30/new-jersey-christie-obama-response-sandy

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19 posted 2012-10-31 05:36 PM


Mike?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/10/chain-email/obama-didnt-write-that/

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20 posted 2012-10-31 06:48 PM


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This has been going on for at least half a century
that I personally know about . . .  At some point individual
by individual it just doesn’t work anymore . . .  There is no open
refusal to any longer wear the guilt yoke, but I suspect it will be reflected
on election day.


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Reb and Moonbeam......I hate when that happens but I am guilty of not checking it thoroughly enough. My apologies....

I do know that Obama had described his grandmother as a "typical stereotyped white woman."


Moonbeam, I have no problem with Christie praising Obama. It simply shows that Christie can set aside politics to recognize good work from a man who he is politically against.....kudos to Christie and to Obama for acting in such a manner to warrant the praise.


Lr...chant of the moment is racist, too??? Ah, I see. African tribes dance around while chanting so that must be what I was referring to, right? Keep that chant going, sir.

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22 posted 2012-10-31 07:26 PM


Thank you john, for so adeptly illustrating how republicans play victim when they are called out for their racism.  Republicans have been so disadvantaged by this, are unable to find jobs, go to the best schools, make lots of money, and hardly ever become president. Poor, poor, republicans.
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So you believe all Republicans
are in that wicked 1%.   Who knew . . .


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24 posted 2012-10-31 07:35 PM


Yes, because that would make as much sense as believing all republicans are 80% of republicans.
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"Yes, because that would make as much sense as believing all republicans are 80% of republicans."


Which no doubt makes perfect sense
to many  Democrats.


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John, are you one of those democrats then?  Because I notice that it's your arguments, and only yours, that are attributing the attitudes of the 80% to the 100%.

If you don't like racism, you should be one of the republicans working to get it out of your party instead of denying, deflecting, and defending.

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27 posted 2012-10-31 08:22 PM


Check out the actions of the past 60 years, LR, and then tell us which party was more instrumental in helping blacks and which one was against.

Almost gotta hand it to democrats. They keep pointing fingers and screaming about the right being racist, hoping that no one actually takes the time to investigate their own past.

Obama was hired because he was black.
He will be fired because he is incompetent.

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28 posted 2012-10-31 10:17 PM


I took the poll and thank goodness I wasn't determined to be a racist even though I am a Republican.  I did answer the questions truthfully to the best of my ability because I was interested in what the results would be.

It might be noted the poll results on their face do not show racism.  To get the results, the results are interpreted to determine "unconscious feelings" in regards to race.

The first half of the test consists solely of questions to determine if your political views are aligned towards Democrats or Republicans.  You also indicate who you have previously voted for and will vote for in the future.

Then you have what I would consider to be some really top-notch intellectual type questions.

"It’s really a matter of some people just not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder, they could just be as well off as whites.”  agree or disagree

or...  “Irish, Italians, Jewish, and other minorities overcame prejudice and worked their way up. Blacks should do the same without special favors.”   agree or disagree?   I haven't beat my wife recently either.

But the meat of the poll is to be shown photographs of caucasions intermixed with photgraphs of blacks along with good and bad words and then to push either the k or l key on your computer as quickly as possible in different combinations changing the relationship of black to white to good and bad words.

Apparently how fast you push the appropriate key in the appropiate combination of photograph and word establishes your degree of racism.  Either I am not a racist or I am a pretty good key puncher.

Other academic research has come to starkedly different conclusions on the degree of racism in the United States.  (Maybe they had you push different keys on the computer).

In any event, I do not find it surprising the results were as found and the fact the poll was released by organization it was at the time it was in relation to the election.  

Does racism exist in the U.S.? Of course. There is a small minority of kooks on both ends of the political spectrum. If you are a Republican does that automaticaly make you a racist?  Only in the eyes of the far left in the Democratic party and polls interpreted by biased organizations.

Let's decide the election on the issues.

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29 posted 2012-10-31 10:37 PM


Mike,  60 years ago there were these fellows named Eisenhower and Rockefeller.  They would be drubbed out of today's Republican party.  There were also these fellows called Dixicrats.  What we 've been trying to get you, and other Republicans to recognize for years now, is that those fellows left the Democratic party and have aligned themselves with this thing that's now called the Republican party which began as a result of johnson's signing of the civil rights act, and congruently with Nixon's Southern Strategy.  

Tim, you can blame the test, blame the messenger, blame the Democrats, and blame science if you want.  Oh, yeah, it's that last word that's the problem.

60 years ago Republicsns believed in science.

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Quite the myopic view of the past, LR. I could show you why....but why waste the time when you know it as well as I? Besides, you would probably call it racial.
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31 posted 2012-10-31 11:16 PM


Jay Leno once asked Dolly Parton how she felt about dumb blonde jokes.  She said they didn't bother her because she's not dumb or blonde.

Interesting results indeed.

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