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0 posted 03-25-2012 09:46 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

...for race riots. That'll get people's minds off the economy.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/#!/on-air/shows/Nutter--Trayvon-Was-Assassinated/144155795

Perhaps Nutter, Sharpeton, Jackson and Obama might care to comment on this one...
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/03/23/flashback-2-weeks-ago-you-get-what-you-deserve-white-boy-boy-13-doused-in-gasoline-and-set-alight-in-racially-motivated-attack/


Of course, the victim of the second link doesn't look like a son of Obama's..
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Mike,

I am incredibly sad.  There is no right in either occurance.  I think the difference might be that the Trayvon case was built upon the outcry of people through social media.  If there had not been that, I am not sure that most of us would have known who Trayvon Martin was and what happened to him if people had not posted their anger and feelings on the forums.

We should be angry about Trayvon and we should be angry about young Mr. Coon.  One young man dead.  One young man terrorized.  It just makes me so damn angry and so damn sad.

I don't have answers or really much of a response except people need to figure out what they want and vote.  We can scream and rant all we want, but if we don't vote we live with other people's decisions.  Our election process might not be the best process, but it is our process.

There is so much anger in this country - and we need express it at the polls.

My heart goes out to the families Martin and  Coons.

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Yes, Alison, the outcry of people through social media..and who are those people? There's the rub. Perhaps if the second victim were black, Sharpeton and Obama would be supporting him...or at least mentioning him. Perhaps then there would be prayers for him or people marching and calling for vengeance.

The Trayvon incident is being used as race-baiting and hate mongering. As with the black professor, Obama is right there, also.

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Obama's not the only one...another reason why Santorum is an idiot.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/25/Santorum-Pronounces-Zimmerman-Guilty-Before-Charge?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Bi g+Government%29&utm_content=FaceBook
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Does it really matter "who" the people are?  Don't we all have the ability and opportunity to do the same thing?
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Yes, actually it does, Alison. Do you really think the protestors, the ones screaming for blood and vigilante law have anything to do with regards to voting???

Your philosophy is sound....but has little to do with this situation.
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No, I don't think that the ones screaming for blood and vigilante law do have much to do with voiting.  I was thinking of all those who are aware, concerned and talking who have nothing to do with calling out for blood and vigilante law.  Perhaps we are talking about two different things.  I am side-stepping the exploitation of Trayvon's death for political gain.  However, a lot of the people who are angry and crying out for changes in this country need to step up and let their voices be heard at the polls.

Anger just seems to be spilling over everywhere in America.  If we don't become part of the process, I believe we are more vulernable to those who speak on our behalf ... like those who are crying out for blood and vigilante justice.

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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/294357/why-manipulate-tragedy-trayvon-martin-heather-mac-donald


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http://radio.nationalreview.com/radioderb/post/?q=OWU0NTc3OTUwZDY2NGVmNGFjYzc3ZTg1MjY0ZmQ0OTI=


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“ A rally is to be held marking a month since black teenager Trayvon Martin was gunned down in a gated community by a neighbourhood watchman in Florida”

“In another development, city officials named an African-American, Capt Darren Scott, as acting chief of Sanford police department.”

“Meanwhile, Joe Oliver, identified as a friend of Mr Zimmerman, said the vilified 28-year-old - the son of a white father and Hispanic mother - was no racist.”

“Over the weekend, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, an African-American, told MSNBC he considered the shooting to be "nothing short of an assassination".”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17515792

Is there racism in America?
Of course . . .

Please, 30 days from now, someone list the facts of this case as have been learned.
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Yes, that will be interesting. My guess is that Sharpeton will have disappeared the same way he did after the lacrosse team rape that didn't happen and Obama will be inviting Zimmerman to the White House for a beer.

(well, maybe not the second one)
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New Black Panthers offer reward for capture of George Zimmerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLiJ4k5QPNs
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How about for the secret eyewitness whose account supports Zimmerman’s?


"George Michael Zimmerman, born Oct. 5, 1983, registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in August 2002, according to state voter registration documents. . .

According to the document, Zimmerman’s race is officially listed as Hispanic. The son of a white father and Peruvian mother, he has been described as a “white Hispanic” in most media reports.”


http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/

Not exactly Nathan Bedford Forest, but the main stream media works with what they can get. . .


Now if the parentage had been switched, with the father being Peruvian, would we even know this story existed?


“Let’s not be naďve: If Trayvon Martin had been shot that night by another black teenager there would be have been nothing from president Obama, no nationally televised demonstrations, no demands for justice by prominent civil rights leaders, and nobody outside his immediate circle of family and friends would even know his name.

We know about Trayvon Martin only because the man who shot him looks white.  Actually, Zimmerman’s mother is Peruvian, which makes him half Hispanic, a fact you might not have known if you get your news from the usual places.  That would only detract from the storyline: black kid shot by overzealous (and probably racist) white vigilante.  For what it’s worth, the New York Times refers to him as a “white Hispanic,” a politically correct description to make sure we know Mr. Zimmerman is a white man – and not “a person of color.”  You think the Times would call him a “white Hispanic” if he had won a Nobel Prize for curing cancer? . . . .

Hundreds of young black men are shot and killed in this country every year.  In almost all the cases, the shooter is also black. Try to name one of those dead black men.  Just one.”


http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/trayvon-martin-and-media-hypocrisy/


What I resent is the willful manipulation, omission and misrepresentation
on the part of news media to promote some political or social purpose.
As such I don’t think it can or should be expected to have the trust and
faith it imagines it deserves from critically thinking adults in this world.
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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-trademark-name-20120326_1_mother-files-trademark-office-petitions


Interesting....two scenarios come to mind.

(1) The mother and father decide to come up with a way to ease their grief and make some money from their son's death so they trademark two phrases that are related to the tragedy.

(2) The couple are approached by Sharpeton, Jackson or the like are are convinced to get the trademarks, after which hoodies and signs are printed and sold, making money for both the couple and whoever came up with the plan. Also very advantageous or Sharpeton/Jackson who, by with the amount of rabble raising they can create, and the longer they can make it front page news, will make more money from it.

My vote is for number two.
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I think speculation is not what we should be doing. Speculation lends to the predisposed mindset that perpetuates bigotry of all kinds.

I do not happen to be a fan of the "stand your ground" law for just that reason. It blurs facts with the very speculation of investigation. It's difficult enough for law enforcement to ascertain the difference without a fuzzy law putting filters on the light. In the meantime, it happens to be the law in Florida. If I lived in Florida, I think I would actively campaign to rescind it.
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Fuzzy it is but, in this case, it all depends on the circumstances. If the fellow chased the kid and shot him, that law would not save him. If the kid had him on the ground and was beating him, as witnesses have testified, it would. An investigation will hopefully tell. People who want vigilante law, who offer rewards, who try the case in the court of public opinion instead of a court of law, are out of line. If Zimmerman did shoot the kid for no valid reason, I'll be the first one to applaud his conviction.

Isn't it interesting, though, that the incident happened a month ago and, for three weeks, no papers carried it and no one made a fuss about it. Then somehow it became front page news, leading to protests, marches, and cries of racial hatred.

I heard that the Black Panthers have raised the reward to one million. Isn't it also interesting that Obama has nothing to say about that? True, one can say that the president of the United States has no obligation to weigh in on local issues...except he already did, voluntarily.  Now that the group that democrats used to intimidate voters at the polling booths are offering a reward for the "capture" of Zimmerman, disregarding law, Obama doesn't even have the decency to call that wrong.

If it turns out that Zimmerman was within his rights and the testimony of the eyewitnesses is true, and Zimmerman is found innocent, be ready for the race riots to begin.
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If we must speculate, I'll speculate for justice served, as presented by the evidence revealed.

Race-baiting, Race riots, conspiracist motivation theories, media on both sides exploiting a heart-breaking situation, and here we are, the little mini-talking head pep squad? *wince*

I take no sides. I do not have access to the evidence.

I backspaced the speech.

But I maintain my distaste for that particular law--it muddles police investigations and encourages the vigilante.

It's just a bad deal.

The media does what the media does, they get paid to do it. We don't. I don't need an interpreter, and I'm pretty sure most people would resent the idea that they did.

Let's wait to see what the evidence reveals.

We really don't know enough to be judging the call.
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True...and we are not judging the call. We are judging how the process  is being manipulated. I agree with you. Let's see what the investigation turns up. The folks stirring up the racial hatred stew aren't interested in doing that.
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Thank you.

I'd like to think that everybody would like your questions answered.

It's rather painful for me to watch. (It took a long time for the Danziger Bridge incident to finally go to court, and even the outcome was painful on all sides.)

So excuse me. *smile* I have some new glasses, and a yummy book. (Bill Moyers--Genesis.)

I think I'll have some tea and hopefully read  a couple of pages before I fall asleep.

G'nite, 'deer.
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Hope you slept well, serenity gal.


Here come da dems...


WASHINGTON – House Democrats invoked the name of slain Florida teen Trayvon Martin on Tuesday as they filed a challenge to Arizona’s SB 1070, the immigration law to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court next month.
The friend-of-the-court brief from 68 Democrats – including both from Arizona – argues that SB 1070 is unconstitutional because it pre-empts federal authority. Southern Arizona's U.S. Rep. Raúl Grijalva led the push for the brief.
But much of the discussion at Tuesday’s news conference centered on Martin, the unarmed black teen killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer who said he was acting in self-defense when he shot the hoodie-wearing youth last month.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, said a law like SB 1070 will give police “the right to be judge and jury,” which could have disastrous results “in a nation where we all are different.”
“In one case, a hoodie equals suspicion,” she said. “In another case, it is a tanness of your skin, or the coloration of your skin, or maybe the configuration of your face.”
Supporters of the law called references to Martin an “unfair comparison,” noting that Arizona’s law only applies to police officers – not neighborhood-watch volunteers.
“SB 1070 only allows police officers to question suspected immigration status,” said state Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills. “To invoke the name of that recently killed teenager sensationalizes and emotionalizes a debate that should be logical or rational.”
http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/032712_az_sb1070/grijalva-dems-file-challenge-sb-1070-with-supreme-court/


Illinois Congressman Bobby Rush, created an uproar today by donning a hoodie and sunglasses, in protest of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Rush addressed the House floor stating "Racial profiling has to stop," Rush removed his jacket revealing a hoodie underneath.  He then pulled the hood over his head removing his glasses, and replaced them with sunglasses. "Just because someone wears a hoodie does not make them a hoodlum."

The Congressman then began quoting passages from the Bible expressing the need  "to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God" and about being "sent ... to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and to recover the sight to the blind and to set the oppressed free .... I urge all men who hear these words to heed these lessons."

Republican Rep. Greg Harper of Mississippi made numerous attempts to stop Rush by hammering his gavel repeatedly. However, Congressman Rush proceeded to speak, raising his voice. Rush shouted out "May God bless Trayvon Martin's soul, his family while he was escorted off the House floor by the House Sergeant of Arms.
http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-national/illinois-congressman-ejected-from-house-floor-for-donning-hoodie-and-sunglasses#ixzz1qR7ibZJj
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New Black Panther leader in racist rant: 'I don't follow American law'
  

In a video posted on YouTube Tuesday, New Black Panther leader Minister Mikhail Muhammad told CNN's Anderson Cooper he doesn't follow American law, effectively saying he disassociates himself from the Constitution or federal and state laws.
Instead, he says he follows what he called the "street people's law."
Cooper, much to his credit, grilled the Black Panther, asking him how it was he could call for a citizen's arrest when George Zimmerman, the Hispanic neighborhood watchman who shot Trayvon Martin, has not yet been charged with a crime.
"Under the Constitution, you can make a citizen's arrest.  You cannot arrest somebody...that hasn't been charged with anything," Cooper said.
"Well, according to the street people's law, he has been charged with murder," Muhammad replied, calling his version of the law, "God's law."
"I wanna say, I don't obey the white man's law, I don't follow American law," he added, claiming the law does not protect him and adding that he is not a citizen.
"So, I have no right to respect American law," he said.
Muhammad continued, with a not-so-veiled threat that if Zimmerman would be executed if he is found.

Continue reading on Examiner.com New Black Panther leader in racist rant: 'I don't follow American law' - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/new-black-panther-leader-racist-rant-i-don-t-follow-american-law#ixzz1qRAGfcNN
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I'd like to clear something up.

I think that reporting such things is a GOOD thing, because we need to be made aware of such matters if we are to change our laws for the better.

Exploitation of a person's pain for political motive is repulsive on either side, and accusations of race-bating, is..well, race-baiting itself.

I'd also like to say that for some reason, people equate justice with a happy ending. Justice, from my experience, can be painful for all of those personally involved.

My only opinion on the matter is that the "stand your ground" law is flawed. I'm going to be really unpopular by further adding that  I wish for stricter gun control laws.

The only reason I own a handgun is that I inherited it, and yes, I needed a level playing field being alone in this house after Katrina. When the police asked me to stop aiming at people walking the streets after curfew during our period of martial law, I did. But I also know that even if someone is in my home, and I shoot them and they die, it might be legal. But I'll never be freed from my own conscience.

I haven't watched the news today, btw.

I'm under doctor's orders to remain calm and I am out of valium.

But you all go for it, but I beg you, for the sake of our nation, for the good of all, please type carefully regarding racial matters, and I do agree that two certain networks go far overboard (one would be Left and the other Right) in creating sensationalism which I feel is irresponsible. It dirties up journalism--which once upon a time seemed to have a code of honor which I am finding more and more difficult to detect.

(And thank you, Mike, I did sleep well, and yes, the book is yummy and has been on my "read before you die" list for a while.)

Ciao. and *peace*

I shall save my bloodlust for former mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin, a profiteer of pain if I ever saw one...
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Critics say the "Today" show attempted to incite racial anger when it cut crucial seconds from audio of a phone call placed by George Zimmerman just before he killed the teenager.

In Interview With Piers Morgan, George Zimmerman's Brother Breaks Silence on Trayvon Martin Shooting (Video)
In Trayvon Martin Case Developments, ABC Airs Police Footage, Spike Lee Apologizes, Parents Speak (Video)
Russell Simmons Slams Geraldo Rivera's Apology in Trayvon Martin Controversy

NBC News is being excoriated in some circles – with competitor Fox News Channel leading the charge – for selectively editing audio of the 911 call placed by George Zimmerman just before he killed Trayvon Martin.

The NBC segment in question featured anchor Ron Allen and ran on the Today show on Tuesday. On Thursday, Sean Hannity and guest Brent Bozell played the NBC version of the 911 call and compared it with the unedited version.

In the NBC segment, Zimmerman says: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

The full version, though, unfolds like this:

Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”

911 operator: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”

Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

After playing both versions, Hannity said: “They forgot the dispatcher’s question! How could NBC, in good conscience, do that?”

“This isn’t bias, this isn’t distortion, this is an all-out falsehood by NBC News,” answers Bozell, who runs a conservative watchdog group called the Media Research Center.
[URL=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trayvon-martin-nbc-news-editing-911-call-306359]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trayvon-martin-nbc-news-editing-911-call-306359[/UR L]
So what's new...?
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So if there's a riot
and someone dies
who is to blame?


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Whoever incited the riot. Take you pick....


 
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