Mr. Maher is a political satirist. He makes a point of being politically incorrect about political issues and politicians. He does seem to have something of a leftward slant these days, but he is willing and able to satirized anybody in the political realm. He has given significant amounts of guest time to people with Right Wing views, and even taken their side in some of the ensuing discussions. I have seen this with my own little eyes. I saw him defending Ann Coulter against attack, though certainly she can do well enough on her own; and I have seen her appear as a guest on his program on at least two occasions. He has also featured other Right Wing spokespeople. I have seen him criticize President OBama, and I have enjoyed watching P. J. O’Rourke on Mr. Maher’s program as well. Mr. Maher is an equal opportunity satirist; he lampoons fools of all political stripes with an equal and savage gusto, and he is to be admired for that.
What Mr. Limbaugh says about politicians may be difficult to tolerate from time to time, but they are professional politicians, after all, and comments made about them may be in poor taste but most folks believe they are protected speech under the first amendment and that’s the way things work in our democracy. The compression of Feminist and Nazi is a work of propaganda that seems to me to be better than anything I know about Josef Goebbels. Alas, I have no real German, and can’t tell for sure. But Mr. Limbaugh does seem to be a talented propagandist of that stripe, and seems to be able to make a crowd of what would otherwise seem to be reasonable Americans sound very troubling indeed.
As long as he remains focused on politicians, this seems to be business as usual.
The various examples of people who seem bothersome all seem to fall. oddly enough, within that protected range as well. That is, they are comedians or satirists who are commenting about politicians that they dislike.
Furthermore, if I understand the examples you offer correctly, the comments are just that — single comments or passing statements that are probably in terrible taste and which could and probably should be apologized for, but that, my friend, is pretty much it. Unless you’re concealing examples, none of these folks sat down behind a microphone and spent hour after hour and day after day as a method and as a policy pouring poison into the ears of the public about folks who were not professional politicians. Veterans who didn’t like a war policy, for example, certainly didn’t earn being called cowards by Mr. Bravery himself. And calling a law student a slut and a prostitute was seriously vexing to a fair sized portion of the American public, even without, one may assume, the knowledge that she was trying to speak up for a friend who was unable to get medical treatment for a problem that was not about birth control or abortion at all.
This is a tactic of Mr. Limbaugh’s, not a one off sort of thing.
So this is not really the question of fairness that the thread would have you believe it is.
Mr. Maher is not a Left Wing Stooge, he’s a free-lance satirist who has friends and acquaintances and guests on all sides of the political spectrum.
Mr. Limbaugh is a Right Wing apologist and stooge. He has a habit of going after people he believes to be helpless, like Ms. Fluke and like the Vets that he thought he could get away with calling cowards. When he developed an OxyContin addiction, he didn’t even get his own drugs, he used a cut-out in the form of a maid in his employ to take the risks of doing the buying for him. After all, why take a risk yourself when you can have a woman you employ to clean your house to take the risk of jail for you. Now there’s a man for a whole political party to admire
Let me see, blame the law student or Blame the Bloviator?
I’ll have to think very deeply about that one.
You mean, Blame the Satirist who allows people from both sides a fair shot at the fools, no matter if the fool is President Obama or Rick Santorum. I don’t think so.
Yeah, the line you quote about His wife was to my mind out of line. It was also in the context of Rick Santorum making a very large deal about the private sexual lives of other people. Santorum is a former senator with a history of making other people’s sexual mores an issue, and near as I can tell this was bad taste but protected speech. She was part of his campaign and you’re developing convenient blindness about the fact that she and all the rest of the people you feel upset about here are Politicians.
While I happen to think that Mr. Maher should have apologized, his comments were still protected speech.
Mr. Limbaugh’s may have been protected speech as well, for that matter; I’m not a lawyer, and I can’t tell you.
But you can’t have a campaign that says it’s on the side of decency and morality have a spokesman treat other people in this fashion this consistently with this little care and with such complete absence of class and continue to get away with it. Once Mr. Limbaugh started doing whatever it was he was doing while he was paddling about talking in that huge verbal swimming pool of his, other people began to emerge in large numbers from those luxurious heated Excellence in Broadcasting waters with nauseous expressions on their faces, holding their noses and looking for showers with disinfectant soap. No wonder he feels the need to apologize on air.
No wonder Ms. Fluke is in no hurry to hear anything he’s got to say. The truth is that Mr. Limbaugh is a monster who’s been getting away with living like a real live human being. He needs to go off by himself and all the flies he needs to amuse himself with and simply leave the rest of us alone. When you look up the word, you know, he’s really a very close fit.
Definition of MONSTER
a : an animal or plant of abnormal form or structure
b : one who deviates from normal or acceptable behavior or character
: a threatening force
a : an animal of strange or terrifying shape
b : one unusually large for its kind
: something monstrous; especially : a person of unnatural or extreme ugliness, deformity, wickedness, or cruelty
: one that is highly successful