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Huan Yi
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Question:   in the UK can two single adults who are living
together but claiming different addresses get more
money from the state than two adults who acknowledge
being married?


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quote:
Question: in the UK can two single adults who are living
together but claiming different addresses get more
money from the state than two adults who acknowledge
being married?


Whether they're married or not doesn't have much of a bearing on the answer. If two people live together their allowance is less than if they live separately. If they live together but claim to live apart they'd be fraudulently claiming the single persons allowance whether they were married or not.

As far as job seekers allowance (unemployment benefit) goes they'd be a maximum of four quid a week better off if they're under 25.

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"Whether they're married or not doesn't have much of a bearing on the answer. If two people live together their allowance is less than if they live separately. If they live together but claim to live apart they'd be fraudulently claiming the single persons allowance whether they were married or not."


Is the difference enough for it to be a problem?

Is there a reward for informing?
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UK women are 'fattest in Europe'


“As a medical doctor, I have first hand experience of this alarming news.The rates of diabetes in my clinics have doubled over the last decades in both men and women. More so, is the number of people who are super-obese (BMI>40-50); they can't fit in some scanning machines, have multiple diseases at a younger age and require weight loss surgery. Obesity and its complications will bankrupt the NHS”


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15901351


You don’t have to go across the pond . . .

Still there’s a question that given limited resources
under what obligation is the state to save people
from themselves.

Is it worst among those on assistance?


Health costs are a consideration for an employer here
especially those that are self-insured.   It plays
an unspoken role during a job interview admitted or not.


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     If you follow up on the BBC link, you can also see that the wealthier countries seem to be, the fatter they are.  Also the more educated an individual seems to be, the less likely they are to be overweight.  For your health, therefore, doesn't it seem to follow that you would be ever so much better off of be poor and well educated?

     Or might it be possible that this is another ridiculous and prejudicial line of reasoning that's being trotted out to suggest that there's some sort of inherent inferiority in the poor that makes the way they're treated by the rich and powerful somehow justifiable on some sort of scientific grounds, since such treatment it seems to have failed for the most part to have found any justification on ethical or religious grounds?  The poor are fat, therefore we  can treat those disgusting pigs any way we want.

     Hmmm, Protein is more expensive than carbohydrate and many of the processed sugars and fats.  A lot of the advertising dollars are spent on urging people with limited funds to spend those funds on fast foods, whose calories come from carbs, sugars and fats, and whose nutrition is not balanced.  Many of the poor, far from having the wicked modern fast and racy cars that some [Edited - Ron] believed can be so easily afforded on poverty level support, have trouble getting around on public transport, and must lug large amounts of groceries over sometimes hefty distances to get them home.  These housing developments are not always located conveniently on public transit lines, a fact which has been pointed out on occasion on UK television on occasion.   The reality of this has seemed to avoid US television but is obviously a factor here as well.

     Having a car, it may be a pain to get fifty pounds of nutritionally balanced groceries  home from a store a mile or two away,  but not a huge pain.  I can even stop at two or three if I plan.  When I lived in Somerville, Massachusetts, with no car, and had to walk a mile to get to a bus stop, things were very different indeed.  [Edited - Ron]

     Some folks occupy such places by choice, and some occupy them by necessity of one sort or another.

     In psychology there is a concept called "locus of control."  It is a measure of where a person conceptualizes  control of their life lies.  Psychology does not, by the way, suggest there is a right answer to this question, though it might say there is a place where most people might say control lies, that doesn't really offer any real answer, does it?  It's a matter of opinion, a sort of average of those people you've been asking, and the actual relationship of that answer to reality is problematic.  The right wing answer is frequently, though not always, to suggest that the Locus of control lies inside a person; and if a person is poor, it is because of something they are doing or not doing; and if they are rich it is for the same reason.

     I suggest that this may be part of the discussion we are having now.

     It would be foolish for me to say that what a person does or does not do cannot affect who he or she is and what he or she may become.  It may even be a major factor.  If I am not for myself, who am I for?

     Yet, when I look at Maimonides, one of the great religious scholars, and look at what he says about the duties of being a Jew, he says a very odd thing.  I admit, I may be misreading or misunderstanding him, because I make no claims at being a religious scholar myself, but I would have expected the man to say something about idols and staying true to the one God.  Whether you believe in God or not, that has something of interest to it; instead he says the first duty is the ransom of captives.

     In modern Israel, they would simply look puzzled, and I suspect there might be some sharp discussions back and forth about this.  But if you peel back the thinking a couple of layers, in a way that I would do but perhaps Maimonides would not, but perhaps he would, we are talking about what it is that we owe each other in this world and what sorts of captivity we each may suffer under.  We owe it to the rich and poor alike.

[This message has been edited by Ron (11-28-2011 12:44 AM).]

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PS

I think it strange to read the BBC
and find everyone as if Mr Wonderful died
in a car accident.


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     Don't follow your meaning, John.
 
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