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Local Rebel
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If someone introduced a bill that had a positive effect for our emergency responders but was dependent on selling our first borns into slavery, I think I'd probably be opposed to it. Strenuously so. That doesn't mean I don't respect police and fire; it simply means I think the cost being proposed is inappropriate to the benefit being accrued. To concentrate solely on benefits while ignoring the costs -- or to advocate that others do so -- would be at best illogical and at worst irresponsible. Similarly, being opposed to the costs doesn't necessarily mean someone is opposed to the benefits. Both have to be considered.



I think the Republicans have a real problem trying to talk about selling our kids into slavery (a bit hyperbolic isn't it Ron?) after putting a trillion dollar war of choice on the company credit card.  

Even when 'goverment' is doing what the radicals say government should be doing -- they don't want to foot the bill.  Cheapskates.
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     Thank you, Ron.  I remain technologically unsavvy, but I appreciate your clarification very much indeed.

     Mike, well, yes, can I see that the first responders were not invited to the celebration in New York City and I agree with you that the action was highly disrespectful of the first responders in many ways.  I think you're correct.  The first responders should have been invited and, if necessary, a larger venue should have been chosen to include them; doing otherwise was quite upsetting.  If I'd known about it at the time, I might have expressed have my anger then.  Having only those details that you supply now, I find myself outraged as well.

     Is that the sort of response you were interested hearing from me, a straightforward description of how I feel about how the first responders were treated?  Or, if there's some other sort of response that you feel you're being shorted on, please let me know, and I'll try to give you an honest response there as well.
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27 posted 09-20-2011 02:21 AM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

Are we supposed to be angry with Bloomburg ?  I just don't see a tit for tat there.  I learned how to tell dissimilar things when I was watching Sesame Street.
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Thank you, Bob. Yes, I was hoping for a response like that because, if you had dismissed it or supported it, it would have weakened your position substantially. I appreciate the fairness of your position.

LR...you're not "supposed" to do anything. You are what you are. If, however, one of the objects of a topic of yours was people or groups showing disrespect toward first responders, then, yes, I wouldn't think you would be supportive of Bloomberg's actions. Bob has been gracious enough to show that he is against that disrespect, whichever side he claims does it.

My regards to the cookie monster.
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I think the Republicans have a real problem trying to talk about selling our kids into slavery (a bit hyperbolic isn't it Ron?) ...

Not hyperbolic at all, LR. Actually, I think if you listen to the Republicans, they seem to rate raising taxes and selling kids into slavery pretty much on the same scale with each other. Slavery might even fall a few points behind tax hikes?
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A slight detour but..

If you're using Internet Explorer Bob hitting refresh might not work depending on the version you're using. There's a glitch in a couple of versions which causes the automatic check for dynamic content to fail.

The glitch forces the browser to use the cached page until it hits the expiration date/time regardless of whether you request a standard refresh. There's a manual fix that works on some versions which is to force a refresh regardless of the expiration date on the cached file - simply hold the CTRL key and press F5 (refresh).

A more permanent fix is to change the browser settings:

1. In Internet Explorer, click Internet Options (or Options) on the View menu.

2. On the General tab, click Settings.

3. Change the Temporary Internet settings to Every visit to the page instead of Automatically detect.

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I use Firefox, as does Ron, and we get the same thing. Just clicking on the refresh button brings your entry up.
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The glitch probably doesn't affect Opera or Safari either Mike but it definitely affects certain versions of Internet Explorer, which is why I mentioned it.

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     1)   I use Safari.  There may be a Refresh button on the thing someplace, but I've never seen it.

     2)  I think Not inviting first responders was a major discount and a big mistake.

     I would have felt that way even if it had been Democrats responsible.   Thank youi, Mike; you were very gracious.
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Shift + the 'reload' toolbar option should bypass the cache and reload the page in Safari Bob.

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I'm also using Safari (at the moment on my Ipad) Bob.  If you look in the address bar all the way to the right side there is a semi-circle with an arrowhead on it.  That's your refresh button.  And Safari is really bad about making you use it on Pip, I know.

Well Ron, Republicans have been singing that song since before WWII.  They said we couldn't fight a war and have social security.  They said we couldn't fight a war and have minimum wages, the WPA, environmental conservation, a 91% top tax rate on billionaires,  but, somehow the Axis powers were defeated,  and the children of our parents lived through the greatest expansion of th middle class the world has ever seen.  But now, 37% of family units where the parent(s) are under 30 live in poverty, after 30 years of Reaganomics.  I think 'slavery' might be better.    

Mike, I'm confused.  Are you suggesting Bloomberg is a Democrat?
 
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