Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
There have always been people who wanted to kill us, my friend. From Chief Pontiac to General Cornwallis, from Jesse James to Al Capone to David Berkowitz, Americans have rarely been without our fair share of very real, very personal threats. We didn't bow to those threats, though, we didn't cower in fear or abandon the liberties that were so dearly purchased in blood and tears. We sucked it up, 'cause that's what Americans do.
True enough, Ron, but will refer you to my internet point. Never has it been easier. Never had the â€śbad guysâ€ť had such ease of communication or synchronization, just as the uprisings as Syria and Libya were facilitated and made possible by the internet. Ben Franklin didnâ€™t have to deal with that. Never has a terrorist organization been able to have contact with followers around the world in the blink of a keystroke. I consider this, by, far, to be the most dangerous time to date.
Patting you down or scanning your shoes when you board a public transport vehicle is one thing. Doing it when you crawl into your own car is another matter entirely. Taping private conversation without due process is wrong. And when I stop scanning your shoes for explosives and start looking for drugs or immigration papers, I've crossed the line from "adjustments" to undue search and seizure.
Again,I agreeâ€¦.and I feel that, were we ever to reach that point, the public would rebel. We are not at that point and to make the case that we may get there based on the actions taken today has no basis in reality. Itâ€™s like saying, â€śA policeman can ask for my name but he canâ€™t ask for my birthday, bank account number, social security card, oe wifeâ€™s measurements.â€ť Well, heâ€™s not so why assume he will just because he can ask for your name? As I stated earlier, itâ€™s not the controls but the abuse of controls we need to be concerned about.
Americans have rarely been without our fair share of very real, very personal threats. We didn't bow to those threats, though, we didn't cower in fear or abandon the liberties that were so dearly purchased in blood and tears. We sucked it up, 'cause that's what Americans do.
Thatâ€™s right. There is no better example of that than how we handled ourselves after 9/11. We have not cowered in fear, nor have we abandoned liberties. We sucked it up and moved forward. Interestingly enough, by every survey or poll I have seen, Americans fully supported the Patriot Act with regards to wire-tapping and keeping an eye on persons or organizations that the government felt had possible ties to terrorist organizations. To me it would be insane not to. To have persons in the US that have cast reasonable suspicions that they may be involved in activities detrimental to the US, have the capability of monitoring their overseas connections, and not doing so would be inane. This knee-jerk reaction that it will carry over to granny sharing her recipes with the neighbors is just silly. Law enforcement agencies have used wire-tapping for many, many years. Police have gone undercover, wired. Do we then say that, wow, if they do that, they may just start wiring every house in the country and our personal liberties are out the window? Of course not. I donâ€™t see the â€śpanicâ€ť mode you refer to. If you do, perhaps you can point it out to me.