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25 posted 06-24-2011 08:58 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

I'm glad you're happy too, Karen, and don't ever stop being you!

Yes, Bob I know you were referencing the Constitution. It acknowledges and secures our rights. That's all it can do, if followed. Neither government nor 'We the People' are the granter of rights. They don't derive from our nature. What the people estabished was the Constitution.

I will check out the book you suggested.

Thanks.
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     Denise, I just got a copy for myself and I've started it.  The writing is somewhat academic but witty and points out stuff that I hasd't even considered, such as how fashionable it was among historians to give Locke primacy among philosophers for those affacting the framers, where we were at the time of the book's writing in that crediting cycle and so on.  Interesting stuff, for me, at least.

     The author tracked "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness" as a variation on another 18th century philosophical point of view, which I'm about to get into, so evidently he touches on the Declaration a bit as well.  Anyway, I thought I'd let you know that I'm interested in following up here, and I'd be interested in seeing if you retain any interest, and, if so, what piques your curiosity.

     Not that anything has to or that you need to read with me.  I loathe homework myself, but if the spirit moves you....
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I'm interested Bob, just waiting for some extra cash to get it.
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28 posted 07-06-2011 04:44 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I'd been thinking about this thread...

this is what came to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4ZbEATetg

I'd like to say I don't mean this offensively, but from the first time I'd read the subject line, something in my head quibbled the pronoun.

"my" country is your country too.

and vice versa, naturally.

I'm not around enough to babysit a new thread, but I think we need to define, refine, and amend the definition of "America" and what it means to be "American".

I personally do not wish to go back to the United States that refused women the right to establish credit in their own names, along with numerous other violations of equal rights divided according to gender and race qualifications which hindered individuals in their pursuit of happiness.

I don't wish to return to a national mindset of the fifties--I wasn't even born then, but when I think "fifties" I think "McCarthy".

I love you much, I'm forever grateful to you, so please check your email for a personal message, k?

We can differ in philosophies, politics, and still ultimately share a humanitarian goal.

I just have to believe that's so.


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No, I don't want to go back to those injustices either, Karen.

I just want big brother out of my life and out of my purse, out of my healthcare  decisions....and out of my bra and panties if I decide to travel!
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30 posted 07-07-2011 01:33 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Oh lovie, we agree on so much, I refuse the idea that there is no middle ground.

In fact, my figure is comprised of mostly...middle-earth-type hobbitory?



We get through it somehow. We do.
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Can I get a copy of that peach cobbler recipe, Karen? I must try that.

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     I hear it's Hobbit-forming.
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33 posted 07-21-2011 03:01 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

Today's America:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/madness-39-things-that-are-driving-ordinary-americans-absolutely-crazy
 
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