Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
It's curious about leftists commenting on how Obama's Afghanistan actions and policies are comparable to Abu Ghrab and torture....and yet I can find nothing in the mainstream media even commenting on it. I don't really need to point out how much news Abu Ghrab or Iraq got, how Bush's head on a platter was called for, how members of this forum spoke incessantly about the horror of American soldiers under Bush committing such atrocities.......wo where is the outrage now? I still see mentions of republicans being "the party of torture"....so?
What is happening over there? I don't really know. Apparently, some in the know do....and these people are liberals, not republicans looking for some mud to smear. Ralph Nader, for example, says...
"[Bush officials] were considered war criminals by many people. Now, Barack Obama is committing the same crimes," Nader said. "In fact, worse ones in Afghanistan. Innocents are being slaughtered, we are creating more enemies, he is violating international law."
Then there is David Swanson. Who is he? HE's an avowed leftist, on the board of http://www.democrats.com/ , creator of "The 35 Articles of Impeachment and the Case For Prosecuting George W. Bush", constant basher of FAUX News, and acclaimed speaker with heavy credentials. Swanson is Co-Founder of AfterDowningStreet.org, creator of ProsecuteBushCheney.org and Washington Director of Democrats.com, a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, the Backbone Campaign, Voters for Peace, and the Liberty Tree Foundation for the Democratic Revolution, and chair of the Robert Jackson Steering Committee.
His latest report is http://davidswanson.org/content/obama-even-worse-bush. It is excellent reading for anyone with a mind open enough to digest it. As far as Afghanistan is concerned, he includes this insert..
Obama has embraced the myth that a 2007 escalation in Iraq caused a reduction in violence there, and he has applied that myth to Afghanistan with escalations in each of the past two years leading predictably to increased violence. Obama has taken a low-scale war in Afghanistan and dramatically worsened it. He has ignored, covered-up, and passed the buck on endless war crimes. He has radically expanded the use of drones, including into Pakistan. He has sent troops into Pakistan and at one point, according to news reports, into 75 nations, 15 more than Bush. Whether you count small-scale death squads as "wars" or not, the drone bombing of Pakistan certainly looks warlike, and that has happened without even the pretense of congressional authorization, and in the face of United Nations condemnation of illegality. Obama has added more U.S. military bases in more foreign nations, boosted weapons sales to nations we may some day have the opportunity to fight wars against, and continued the privatization of the military and the employment of the most notorious corporations of the Bush era -- helping to establish their immunity.
"ignored, covered-up, and passed the buck on endless war crimes."??? So where is the outrage? Where is the vitriol that was slung in Bush's direction for supposedly the same charges? The vitriol that gave so much ammunition to our enemies, the vitriol that caused Obama to apologize to the world for America's actions......a little ironic if Obama is now committing the same actions?
No, I'm not really expecting answers here. The Alley is for "flaming". I'm flaming. I will show the continual double standards of Bush's and Obama's presidencies whenever they occur. I'll show the double standards in the media and the ones that were in threads here for eight years. Feel free to disregard......