Member Rara Avis
No, I am not honestly concerned with America spending money on nation-building. I am honestly concerned with America spending money...period.
Good. With that out of the way, we can stop wasting time with familial connections, abortions, and all that other stuff. It's all about the money, then.
Like you, Mike, I have a big problem with America's money being wasted. There are several items in your list that I, too, think are a waste of money. National Health Care (sic) is one of them. A few items in your list don't really involve Federal spending, at least to any great extent, Cap & Trade being one. I think C&T is a good idea. While you're concerned with the short-term effects on jobs, I'm much more concerned with the long-term effects on the economy. Our continued dependence on fossil fuels has the potential to destroy the country. Not hurt it, Mike. Destroy it.
You should probably note, however, that my problem is with America's money being wasted, NOT with American's money being spent. As a businessman, I know it takes money to make money. That's why it's called Capitalism, after all. What you call spending, others will call investing. I'm sure someone somewhere thinks spending $24 million dollars in Kenya is an investment that will pay off later. Whether it's a good investment or not can ultimately only be addressed in the future. At one time, after all, America thought investing in Saddam Hussein was a good bet. I think we'd all like our money back on that one.
Are we spending too much? I honestly don't know, Mike. I think you have some seriously good points that we are. On the other hand, ten years ago I also thought Jeff Bezos was spending himself into oblivion. His relatively new company, amazon.com, was so far from making a profit and so far into debt there didn't seem to be any possible way he could survive. The more he sold, the more money he lost.
Bezos, however, plainly had faith in his company. Should we, perhaps, have less faith in our country? Jeff Bezos' faith proved justified, I think. I hope Barrack Obama's is, too.
I'm not sure, Mike, there's any such thing as spending too much money. There is, rather, such things as spending money wisely or spending it foolishly. From that perspective, clearly every single line item has to be examined on its own merit. What would have happened if Bezos had stopped spending money simply because he had already spent so much?
Has our spending in Iraq and Afghanistan benefitted us? Well, that's another thread, isn't it?
LOL. I thought National Health Care was going to be another thread, Mike.
To answer your question, I would say No and Possibly, respectively. Putting pressure on Al Qaeda in Afghanistan may have prevented more terrorism. I'm willing to accept that possibility as reality. Al Qaeda wasn't IN Iraq, however, at least not until we opened the door for them. From where I sit, there has been absolutely no benefit accrued to America by our spending in Iraq. Benefits to the Iraqi people are questionable.
And, my friend, there's nothing wrong with three-part harmony.