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0 posted 07-06-2010 09:13 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

This is who Eric Holder is refusing to prosecute for voter intimidation in the City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN67KJdd6Mw

Why is our 'post-racial' President silent on this?

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"Before any penalties could be handed down - and after Obama appointed Eric Holder to run the Justice Department - charges were dropped against everyone but Samir Shabazz. The court prohibited him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of any Philadelphia polling place through 2012.

The Justice Department has explained this decision by saying that Jackson was a certified poll watcher who did not carry any weapons, that the New Black Panther website denounced the actions in Philadelphia and that the group had no national plan to intimidate voters."

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A nightclub is a weapon, and it was he who was brandishing it. The slap on the wrist that they gave this dangerous moron is a disgrace. He should have been criminally charged and prosecuted. Being told "now don't do that again within 100 feet of a polling place", is unacceptable.
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3 posted 07-06-2010 10:07 PM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

Maybe you need to ask Bush why his DOJ filed a civil instead of a criminal suit.

"Shortly before President George W. Bush left office, the Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the two men."

- CBS News
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The video has been seen by millions, Denise, and his actions were very clear to everyone - whether they care to admit it or not.


...and anyone who thinks Obama is a post-racial president lives on another planet.
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"The video has been seen by millions, Denise, and his actions were very clear to everyone - whether they care to admit it or not" - Balladeer.

Does that mean you think the Bush DOJ dropped the ball when they filed a civil instead of a criminal suit?


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"The slap on the wrist that they gave this dangerous moron is a disgrace. He should have been criminally charged and prosecuted. Being told "now don't do that again within 100 feet of a polling place", is unacceptable." - Denise

So your issue is really with the court, isn't it since it was the court not Holder, Obama or his DOJ who did the wrist slapping?

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7 posted 07-06-2010 11:10 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Were the charges  dropped because it was a civil suit? Did the DOJ declare that Jackson did not carry a weapon (like nightstick?) because it was a civil suit? If it were a criminal suit, does that mean the nightstick would then be considered a weapon?

Lefties can spin it any way they want. The facts are that the Dems hired Black Panther goons to stand in front of the doors in a threatening manner, nightstick brandishing, to intimidate people. Attempting to deny it, regardless of the actions of the DOJ, is foolish and makes one look like he/she thinks there is nothing wrong with actions like these....perhaps, to Dems, there IS nothing wrong, you know, the same Dems who accused tea-partiers of intimidation tactics.
So nice to have it both ways.....
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Jackson wasn’t carrying a nightstick, shabazz was the only one with a nightstick. The police didn’t arrest him, they asked him to leave and he did. Suggests to me they didn't think a crime had been committed. Jackson as a certified poll watcher and resident of the building had every right to be there, didn’t he? I think it was way over the line for shabazz to be carrying a nightstick. But, considering open carry is allowed in PA, beyond me to even guess if carrying a nightstick might actually be a crime.
How threatening were shabazz and Jackson? Well the guy who called the police stated that he wasn’t afraid, that he actually walked between Jackson and shabazz to enter the polling place. Plus, in the videos people can be seen entering and leaving the building.

I would have felt intimidated and believe shabazz meant to intimidate. But, after doing a little more research, seems he failed, miserably. There were no reports of anyone leaving the polling place because they felt intimidated and according to Republican poll watchers, they saw no one leave or walk away.

“The facts are that the Dems hired Black Panther goons to stand in front of the doors in a threatening manner, nightstick brandishing, to intimidate people.” - Balladeer

Which Dems were that? Have something to back up that accusation?


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Which Dems were that? Have something to back up that accusation?

No, I'm sure it was just a coincidence.
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So again you just made up something and tried to pass it off as fact?
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See what I meant Grinch, just making up stuff?
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A nightclub...is...a WEAPON?

I took this seriously, and actually it is.

It's in the eighty percent percantile bracket of small businesses that can succeed in a recession.
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I guess that's not even funny, because it's a FACT--a verifiable expletive fact that prior to Hurricane Katrina, 85 percent of the New Orleans working population were working for independant, small business owners.

Even if I could say seventy percent--still HUGE.

I'll check my archives of Times Picayunes/Gambit newspapers, but the family has become adamant about me throwing the past away.

But I've been known to stash things...
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Shabazz is a Democratic poll watcher. Who hires them, Republicans?

A nightstick is a weapon and weapons are forbiddent at polling places. That alone should have gotten him arrested. The police dropped the ball on this one, as did the DOJ under Bush for only bringing a civil complaint, and under Obama for even dropping the civil complaint.

I don't think it makes it any better that he failed in his attempt to scare people away from voting. The attempt was made. People were intimidated but voted anyway. Good for them.
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Oh Denise, forgive me.

The truth as I know it is that we, the toilet bowl of the nation, have been sucking down benzines and all his bad butt cousins--like all those ethyls and their numbered counterparts, like we were doing "cancer" shots from a hot chick wearing nothing but test tubes...

I am only of interest to our government if I DON'T die of cancer.

I hope you all fare better.

I truly do.

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So again you just made up something and tried to pass it off as fact?
See what I meant Grinch, just making up stuff?


Well, it was nice while it lasted, ...spots, leopards and all that stuff.....even the musketeer call goes out. My fault for responding to you at all. I'll have to work on that......
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Shabazz is a Democratic poll watcher. Who hires them, Republicans?

In some circles that would be considered a valid question, Denise. I don't think here is one of those circles.
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"Shabazz is a Democratic poll watcher." - Denise

I can't find his name on the list. Perhaps you could point it out?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzoY-ofQBSI&feature=related

I've lost seventy five percent of my family--on both sides--to cancer, cancer directly related to "quality of life" chemicals...

There is no thing we can find to eat, no water to drink, no air we can inhale that goes incontaminate--and still we distract ourselves with partisanship parlee'...

Jenn? I say I want a revolution.

Denise? I want the same from you.

I want us to work together to find a way...is that incredibly naive? Reb?

Tell me it's not.


To hell with divisions, I want algebraic formula, I want a quantum unity leap...

Or will we squabble over nonsense like this?

It reminds me of a Pearl Drops commercial.

Sorry. I am literally sick of smelling gasoline, and I know we are not the only ones.

I'm reading thoughts from really smart people, people who are too smart to allow themselves to get caught up in distractions.

Do something, please. Before you end up like me...unable to focus, with lesions on your cerebrum, experiencing bouts of rage that physicians will prescribe with stuff that immobilizes whatever capacity you might have left...do something real.

I beg you. Work together.

It's not about Republicans nor Democrats. It's about money and world wide corporations that are feeding off of our system and other government systems conjointly.

Stop fighting each other.

We...are being raped.
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And shabazz didn't identify himself as being a certified poll watcher either. Not on the list, didn't represent himself as such. Maybe he was a Republican plant? Sort of like those who impersonate Tea Partiers to make them look bad?
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sigh
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I hear you,  Karen...


M
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“The facts are that the Dems hired Black Panther goons to stand in front of the doors in a threatening manner, nightstick brandishing, to intimidate people.” - Balladeer


“you toss in something like that and blow your credibility and reason out of the water” - Balladeer


Karen, maybe a new thread might help?
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I love you, Mo.

And Jenn? I really can't kee;p up with a thread. I'm counting on you to help me.

I'm really sick, and I know the winds will change, and I'll feel better, but I want you all, all of you to know, this stuff makes you sick.

It smells bad out there.

I want you all to know, too, I was working hard to be a better me, but now? I really don't see the point.

Even my kids are like, "Smoke all ya want, Mom. It don't matter anyhow."

*tears*

But ya'll be good people.

And I really did beat the comp at chess..It took me 35 times. And I used to be good, too.

 
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