Hamas has been known to kill Palestinian civilians, including children, and then blame it on Israel. I don't suppose there is any definitive way to know how many were inadvertently killed by Israel. They are extremely careful not to kill civilians. At any rate, Hamas is responsible for all of them, directly or indirectly
You really ought to provide some sort of mainstream source for this, Denise.
"Have been known" covers a lot of ground. Much of it may well be spurious. All of it is, at this point, hearsay in its most literal meaning, and overall it carries the authority of any particularly nasty piece of gossip.
Should you wish to go beyond the grounds of hearsay, innuendo, smear and gossip, some sort of formal attribution will be needed. I use these words, I believe, well within their established dictionary meanings.
Though I am not a zionist, I was born Jewish and I will, I'm certain, die that way. I am familiar with the various source materials you've laid out about the terrible attacks against Jews and Israelis over the years, and I don't dispute them. The people who perpetrated these attacks should have been punished. Some no doubt were.
You are looking at only a portion of the picture. Even when others try to show you other pieces of the picture, you remain uninterested. The pieces that both Grinch and Jennifer have showed you are accurate as well. Those new pieces do not mean that the pieces you have and which you have insisted upon, quite righteously, I believe, are wrong. Those new pieces, however, because they too are real, do mean that there is another righteous side to the picture that is also real, and which requires earnest attention.
Unlike Jennifer and Grinch, I can't say that that the Palestinians are in the right here. I may be misunderstanding their positions, certainly, when I characterize them in this way; I don't know. But I do understand that the facts and figures that Jennifer and Grinch are offering are on the up-and-up. For each of the lists that you offer of terrible things done by the Palestinians, one could be offered that would list terrible things done by the Israelis. When all was said and done, the lists would both be longer than you would care to look at, and would provide stomach churning upset. There would probably be more atrocities committed by the Israelis because the Israelis are an organized state with an organized army and a coherent policy.
Organized madmen can do more damage than mere berserkers any day of the week, mostly because they care about surviving long enough to do it again. My opinion.
The figures, however, speak for themselves, and Grinch's are the ones that I'm familiar with.
I came upon an interesting reading of the "eye for an eye" section of the bible while I was, if memory serves, reading Everett Fox's translation of The Torah. The idea is that the eye for an eye is not an injunction that you should go out and take an eye for a lost eye, but that it is a limit on vengeance: That one should do no more than take an eye for an eye. That would place the injunction within the mainstream of much of western legal thought, indeed, would make it part of the foundation of that thought.
And that suggests that what the Israelis have been doing may have enabled their survival, but the cost of their doing so may have established the sort of feud that the biblical injunction was designed to avert by extracting unjust retribution and then provoking in return their own unjust retribution.
This particular way of carrying out the "Never Again!" policy, has, in effect, with its draconian methodology, ensured that there will be a "Next Time!" and that the cycle of violence must continue. Every time you tear down the house of an innocent, you create a family or a tribe of enemies with a real injustice to avenge. And that is just one of the most superficial layers of the problem.
Tossing in comments like the ones you ventured above simply don't come to grips with the issues, and they don't come to grips with the facts of much of what the Israelis are doing on an ongoing basis. As John Clare said,
"I am the self-creator of my woe."
And while that applies to all of us to some extent, it certainly applies in full measure here to the Israelis, and yes, to a lesser extent but still in full measure to the Palestinians. After all, you can only mess up to the extent that you've got something to mess up in the first place. I'm sure that given a chance the Palestinians will catch up.