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Denise
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White House officials discovered that it wouldn't work? Now THAT'S funny! When did they discover that someone can't hold positions in two separate branches of the government at the same time, paid or unpaid? Sestak could not accept any position in the Administration while remaining in Congress. But we are to believe that that was actually the offer, an unpaid position on some board, any board, in the Administration, and that he would not have an income at all, since he would have to leave Congress in order to do so?  What kind of an inducement is that? Sorry, L.R. Obama needs a new Chief Counsel. Bauer should have been able to come up with a more believable story than that since February.

Offering someone a job in the Administration is fine, as long as it isn't done to manipulate an election.
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Denise -- you're sourcing idiots m'dear.

The President's advisory boards are created by -- guess who?  The President!  By executive order.  He can put anybody he wants to on them.  He can make the qualifications and requirements whatever he wants them to be.

If he wanted Sestak to sit on the board and remain in Congress he could have facilitated that with a stroke of a pen, or forty -- however many they use at those signings.
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But White House officials discovered that it would not work because Mr. Sestak could not serve on the board while still serving in Congress.



I don't doubt it, L.R., knowing how little he respects the Constitution and the separation of powers. Maybe someone should inform those ill-informed White House Officials that it could have worked after all!
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WASHINGTON – So much for changing how Washington works.

Crimping his carefully crafted outsider image and undercutting a centerpiece of his 2008 campaign, President Barack Obama got caught playing the usual politics — dangling a job offer for a political favor in the hunt for power.
His lawyer admitted as much in a Friday report. It detailed how Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, sent former President Bill Clinton on a mission: try to persuade Rep. Joe Sestak, D-Pa., to abandon his primary challenge to Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., by offering an executive branch post. Sestak said no, stayed in the race and beat the incumbent.
"I can assure the public that nothing improper took place," Obama had told reporters at the White House on Thursday. True or not, Obama has a political problem.

Because what did take place was backroom bargaining, political maneuvering and stonewalling, all of which run counter to the higher — perhaps impossibly high — bar Obama has set for himself and his White House to do things differently.
The White House's reluctant acknowledgment of the chain of events shone a light on the unseemly, favor-trading side of politics — and at an inopportune time for Obama and Democrats as they seek to keep control of Congress.

This election year, angry voters have made clear they have little patience for politics generally and Washington politics specifically. And they are choosing candidates who promise to change the system — and ousting incumbents who fail to deliver.

But what may be even more troubling for the president is the question the episode raises: Has Obama become just like every other politician? The answer could have implications for him ahead of congressional elections this fall and his likely re-election race in two years.

The White House tried to blunt the media maelstrom by releasing the report on the Friday before a long Memorial Day weekend, when fewer people are paying attention to the news. White House counsel Robert Bauer said what transpired was neither illegal nor unethical.

But he also said: "There have been numerous reported instances in the past when prior administrations — both Democratic and Republicans and motivated by the same goals — discussed alternative paths to service for qualified individuals also considering campaigns for public office."

Fair enough.

But Obama has held himself to a different standard. By that measurement, and in this case, he failed to deliver.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100529/ap_on_an/us_politics_as_usual_analysis
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With this Sestak incident in Pennsylvania and a similar incident in Denver, it makes one start to believe Blago's claim that he was the one who was approached about the vacant Obama senate seat and not the other way around, doesn't it?

It was absolutely maddening to watch the local tv news this morning and have the commentators interviewing Marc Lamont Hill about how this is just politics as usual, no big deal, and NO ONE even mentioned the fact that it is a possible violation of 18 U.S.C. 600 and 18 U.S.C. 595, and to back up their point, 'why hey, Governor Rendell admitted to personally practicing 'quid pro quo on occassion'! Well, that must settle it then!
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But Obama has held himself to a different standard. By that measurement, and in this case, he failed to deliver.



     Where The President has gone wrong here, and I think he has slipped, is in failing himself to define that "different  standard."  By failing to do so, he has allowed the Republicans to assert, falsely, that it is up to them to do so.  Considering the Republican record on ethics in Government,  if Democrats  were to follow their lead, we would be in considerably worse trouble than we are in now, and if the Democrats were to allow Republicans to set a lead they think would be ethical for their opponents to follow, it would be unachievable by saints in heaven.

     I believe that we can reasonably expect this administration to shoot for higher standards.  I have no realistic idea of how to reach them without creating an amount of ethical squabbling that would obscure the issue itself.  Bringing up the issue in the first place was a way of talking about the ethical challenges the Republicans faced and did not begin to meet during the past two terms of Republican administration here.  Republicans bringing the issue up again here is an attempt suggesting that this sort of thing, horse-trading daily business in political business, is the equivalent of allowing the oil interests to set energy policy in the Bush White House, and to let the financial and banking interests to run the financial and banking policy of the country and produce a very serious recession we are still trying to fix and which the Republicans are still trying to prolong by voting against the financial fixes necessary to bring the credit industry under control and to separate the insurance and the banking industries.  The Republicans drove wooden stakes into the heart of Siegal Glass and now they want to cut off its head as well.

     This whole business is smoke and mirrors, and a distraction from Republican electoral strategy.  Pay no attention to the disasters we're trying to set up for you, folks, is what they're saying to us.  Pay attention to the way the horse-trading usually goes on, and listen as we scream about it through the amplifiers.  The shock troops we've got massing here on your border are none of your concern, it's really nothing.  Look over there!  Use your binoculars if you have to.  Two guys are talking about a horse.  That's real-l-l-y important.
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Then they need to repeal the law, Bob, if everyone in DC considers it no big deal, and business as usual. And if it's no big deal, why is Blago facing trial on corruption charges? Is what he did any different? Just a quid pro quo, after all, initiated, he says, by the Obama Administration. Is it any different than the White House and Congressional leaders 'buying' the votes of Congress members to pass their health care monstrosity? Too bad the judge won't allow all the tapes into evidence, and too bad the judge won't allow a supboena of Obama. I guess when you are the most powerful man in the world, you pretty much get your own way most of the time.

Obama did define his standards. He was going to have the most open and transparent administration of all time. He has failed most miserably on all counts.
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     Which law is the one that needs to be repealed, Denise?  Perhaps I'm shamefully unaware of a law being violated here, but I am not aware of a law being violated.  Which one is it?
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     I find The President a somewhat right-wing Democrat.  There are things that I have trouble with that he does, having to do with his lack of enforcement of civil rights, for example, and with his failure to roll back elements of the PATRIOT act.  These are elements, by the way, that folks on the right have begun to get upset about as well as they realize that these same laws could be turned against THEM and not simply against the occasional Islamic Terrorist.

     They are right to be concerned; or at least I believe they are, and I have been saying so for a while now.

     When you say that the man is wrong about everything, however, you are speaking out of generalized rage.  It feels right, certainly.  It reminds me of the line from one of the Danny Devito films when he says about his film-wife, Bette Midler, "I hate the way she licks stamps!"  

     A hate that large is simply difficult to credit.  If you hate everything about him, it drags you into territory that simply isn't yours.  I don't credit you with being racist, for example.  I don't believe that.  I don't believe you hate men; sorry, that just doesn't follow for me.  The fact that he breathes is something that I'm willing to bet you're willing to continue doing, even if he does it as well.  He has feet, you're not going to give yours up are you, or insist that he does, are you?

     And, as Sullivan says, "We're all more simply human than otherwise."  You've got to live with that.

     I realy really disliked our last President, but there were some thiungs he did that I thought were things that needed to be done, given the conditions.  We may disagree about them, actually, but I thought his bailout bill was necessary, even though my party was unhappy about it.  

     I think we need to repair the situation that created the need for it in the first place, mind you, but we needed to do it at the time.  Growl at me if you like.  I think he did the right thing.

     I think it's probably somewhat the same about President Obama this time.  He's a mixed bag.  I see him as being mixed more on the workable side.  I won't try to convince you that he's got to be mixed at all, I'm simply expressing my point of view for you as why it's possible to see him that way.  And to admit that he certainly does make his share of mistakes.
 
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