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http://www.truthout.org/palin-bags-boston-a-live-blog58556
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Personal blogs are now supposed to mean something? Do you have a statement to make or a question to ask or a point to make?
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A crowd of 5,000 doesn't sound like much of a flop to me.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9F316Q01&show_article=1
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Wow what a party! Just got back from the Philly Tax Day Tea Party at Love Park. Great speakers, great turnout!
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I had the pleasure of speaking with this gentleman after he gave his speech today at the TEA Party.
http://www.examiner.com/x-34856-Philadelphia-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m2d22-Why-I-am-a-Conservative#comments
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An excellent article, Denise. Glad you had a good time. Did you shoot anyone, throw racial slurs at anyone or any of those other despicable things tea partiers as so famous for (being accused of doing.) No? And you call yourself a tea-partier??? Imposter!!!!


How does the state-controlled media regard it?

Tea party ending tour in capital it loves to hate (AP)

That's the headline. Do you hate Washington D.C., Denise? No---and neither do other tea-partiers. They may hate what's going on there with Obama in charge but the AP doesn't consider that possibility. Easier to just blame the capital, I suppose...typical rag journalism.
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Hahahahaha...I got some good shots in with my camera!

The best sign I saw was: Repeal the Big effing Deal!
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Tea Parties created as GOP political ploy

“The Tea Party has been billed as an organic grassroots operation, but a newly uncovered document obtained by Politico suggests the movement has been successfully co-opted as a Republican fundraising ploy.

GOP political consultant Joe Wierzbicki floated the proposal a year ago today to create the Tea Party Express, a nationwide bus tour to "give a boost to our PAC and position us as a growing force/leading force as the 2010 elections come into focus." His idea eventually became one of the best known brands in the Tea Party movement.
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Wierzbicki, who works for the Sacramento firm Russo Marsh + Rogers, went on to outline how conservative media including Fox News could be leveraged to hype the Tea Party Express. He recommended using "mentions and possibly even promotion from conservative/pro-tea party bloggers, talk radio hosts, Fox News commentators, etc..."
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0415/report-tea-parties-political-ploy/

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Interesting....not. Do they produce that "newly uncovered document".....nope or did I miss it somewhere?

There were tea party movements all over today, involving tens of thousands of people, getting a fair amount of coverage on the evening news. How many acts of violence were there? None. How many acts of racism were there? None.  No wonder liberals are trying to smear them....and no wonder it isn't working.

They have to resort to classless bumper stickers....but you know all about them, right?
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You missed it Mike.
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM154_teapartyexpress041709.html
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Thanks, grinch.

Tea Parties created as GOP political ploy

Are we talking tea parties or the tea party express? The tea parties began as groups of people showing up at town hall meetings, asking questions. There was no organization and no specific leaders. I would assume that the "tea party express" saw an opportunity to organize, due to the actions of these individuals. That doesn't make the tea partiers a GOP-created political ploy. At best it makes the people who came later to cash in on it the organizers. You had asked me once about what the tea partiers wanted and we discussed a website which listed demands. That website was basically the same thing....created by an individual long after the tea party movement had begun.

If it all would be the way Jen's link claims it happened, the the biggest charge against the GOP would be that, through their planning and organizational skills, they were able to come up with a wildly successful fundraising mechanism.


Beats selling T-shirts
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I don’t have an issue with the GOP and their attempts to hi-jack the tea party movement Mike – that’s how politics works – as long as you recognise it for what it is it’s no big deal. I don’t even have a problem with the tea partiers themselves, they’ve a right to protest just as much as the next man, a lot of the stuff they say doesn’t make much sense, but each to their own.

I simply clicked a couple of links and found the document, to be honest I haven’t even read it.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmttyJEfvu0
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thanks again, grinch. The report itself is much ado about nothing, similar to the youtube link of a desperate Keith Obermann, trying to do what he can to raise his sad viewing audience numbers.

Yes, they have the right to protest, as do all other parties. Trying to take away that right through, force, threats or intimidation should not happen in a country that prides itself on diversity and freedom of speech.
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Yes, you're right Michael. The grass roots Tea Parties came first. Joe Wierzbicki came up with the idea for the TEA Party Express Bus and joined forces with Freedom Works, an already existing PAC, founded 12 years ago, currently headed by Dick Armey.

They have done a superb job of bringing national attention to the entire Tea Party Movement.

Oh, the scandal!
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Another great article about today's Tea Party in Philadelphia.

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I spoke for a moment with a plainclothes, black Philadelphia Police Detective and asked him about the crowd; his response: “Nah, we don’t worry about these people.”

“That’s fantastic to hear,” I said.  “Could you spread the word?  It seems as though these folks are accused of being racist, hateful and violent wherever they go.”

“Well, as they work their way across the country, people will see that they’re not,” he told me, noting that he had not heard a single racist or hateful remark from the crowd, this year or last year.  “We saw worse in this town that year we hosted the Republican National Convention.”

Bingo.

See, the left is not frightened of us because we’re violent.  The left is frightened of us because we’re not sitting on the sidelines anymore.  Thomas Jefferson once wrote that he knew “of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves,” arguing that “if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion by education.”  This, he wrote, “is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.”

The crowd I saw today could tell me what was in the legislation passed and signed into law by this administration.  I saw signs decrying the proposed use of “deem and pass,” by all accounts a fairly complex parliamentary procedure, discussion of which long has been the territory of those accustomed to so-called “inside baseball.”  I personally spoke with people about pending Supreme Court decisions, about legislation currently working its way through committee, about the effect of the proposed financial reform law on the derivatives market.

This was a group of people whose discretion had already been informed by education.  And this was in the center of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania — the land of growth-stifling wage taxes, useless trans fat mandates and endless labor union influence.  Hardly an epicenter for conservative thought.  Hardly a meeting place for people who understand the fundamental merits of a limited federal government.

Oh, but it used to be.  In 1776 and 1787, Love Park and everything to the west of 8th Street was described by John Adams as “open country.”  But on the other side of 8th Street, in those days Philadelphia was the center of this fledgling nation.  Philadelphia embodied promise and potential.  Limitless growth.  Boundless freedom.

http://americasright.com/?p=4352
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Koch Ind. tries pre-emptive denial, busted for Tea Party instigation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3oaHbDhUkY
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Koch Industries: We Don't Fund Tea Parties (Except For The Tea Parties We Fund)

"Koch Industries, a major backer of myriad right-wing causes, issued an unsolicited statement last night in advance of Tax Day claiming it has never provided funding "specifically to support the tea parties." But when TPMmuckraker followed up, a spokeswoman acknowledged that Koch funds one of the most prominent national groups that organizes ... tea parties.

Now, it's well known that Kansas-based Koch, one of the largest private companies in the world, with a hand in everything from chemical production to commodity trading, and associated foundations plow millions into right-wing causes including climate change denial and pro-corporate economics research.

Another of Koch's beneficiaries is Americans for Prosperity, which was founded in part by the company's Executive Vice President, David Koch. He is currently the chairman of the board of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation.

AFP, based in Washington, has been a key organizer of many tea party events, including Tax Day Tea Party rallies in at least nine states today. (Indeed, we last encountered AFP when a man holding an "I Am AFP!" sign at an Ohio tea party protest berated a pro-health reform rallier who is disabled by Parkinson's.)"

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/right-wing_backers_koch_industries_we_dont_specifi.php?ref=fpb
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....and there is some point trying to be made here?
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I wonder if that is a similar degree of separation that exists between Soros, MediaMatters, SEIU, Acorn, and the White House?

It must have been a slow news day for MSNBC.
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Tea Party Idiots Exposed By Boston Globe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vrXJ5-EuoE
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I am new to this and I apologize in advance for putting my two sense in; however I went to the links provided by JenniferMaxwell and was surprised at the overtly blatant liberal mudslinging offered as support for her politcial stance.
My main thought was to comment on the attendance of the tax day party. I think 5,000 is a pretty decent turnout, considering that when President Obama held a "town hall" meeting at my college (Lehigh Carbon Community College) in December,  there were only a little over 1,000 people in the audience and they needed a ticket to attend. The college selected students at random and I recieved my ticket from my local Democratic party for thanks in my years of loyal service. I did not attend the rally, due to my class schedule... but mostly because I had no desire to "honor" a man whose politcal agenda I do not agree with. As a Democrat, I voted for Sen. John McCain. I have noticed that as I have matured and accepted the responsibility of children, family, and a future not just for myself, I have become slightly more conservative (at least in finacial matters). I do support the Democratic ideals of universal freedoms and non-violent confrontation and "expanding opportunity for every American." (www.democrats.org/a/party/stand.html)
I can not support an inexperienced, idealistic, seemingly subservient gentleman who campaign used society's fears and sense of guilt to help get elected. I was personally attacked by some of my fellow democrats as being a "racist" after displaying a sign on my front porch (Democratic Moms for McCain). Jennifer, I can appreciate your stance in supporting a man who above all reserves respect for undertaking an extremely difficult job in a time of financial distress. I do believe that President Obama is doing the best job he is capable of. And that last comment proves my point well enough.
As for the Tea Party, whether or not they are being supported by the GOP or whether or not they have all the correct facts about our counrty's spending (or tax cuts or whatever); they do have a point. That point is that it is about time all Americans voice their opinions. And for the sake of our country's future...... USE YOUR OUTSIDE VOICE!!!!!!!! Maybe then, Washington might listen.
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Welcome to the Alley, Banished Fairy. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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I second that welcome, Banished Fairy. Nice to see you!
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Another great sign!
http://twitpic.com/1g8rtp

Welcome Banished Fairy!
 
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