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Was Emily Dickinson a great poet

or more
a psychotic

with nothing better to do
and plenty of time to do it in . . .

?

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Who's to say the two are mutually exclusive? H. P. Lovecraft was a certifiable as a writer can get, and yet he was one of the finest (in my opinion) horror writers to ever grace the frailities of the human psyche. His Cthulu series gave this youngster more than one nightmare when he was introduced at the tender age of 11... and he wrote most of his works as a resident of the squirrel farm... with too much time and nothing to do.

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     I just picked up a complete fiction of Lovecraft in a Barnes and Noble special edition for about $13.00 in hardbound, Ringo.  I too am a long time fan.  I had thought about getting the bells and whistles Library of America edition, but I figure I don't need that many extra notes.  It's a good deal, and if you have a B&N card you should be able to get 20% off.  Or if you know somebody with a B&N card..
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     Back to business.  I don't think she was psychotic, John; I think she was too canny for that.  She was very aware of trends in the external literary world.  I think she was agoraphobic and she might have had a laundry list of other phobias as well.  She was reclusive, yes, and when she was ill once, her poor doctor had to diagnose her by having her run across the doorway while she was dressed in a shift.  The light was none too good.  That's what Don Justice claimed at any rate, and he was very much into her stuff.

     If you read her stuff, she was certainly peculiar, but there is no hint of any sort of formal thought disorder or of any flight of ideas or of any pressured thinking.  The linking in her thoughts would have been unusual if she weren't a poet, but of course she was.  There was no evidence of delusional thinking or of hallucinations, either negative or positive, no thought deletion or insertion or any of the usual wrecking crew that would define schizophrenic thought.

     You can draw a distinction between odd folks and crazy folks, and she was definitely on the odd side, but she was pretty clearly oriented to time, place and person.  Her grooming was supposed to be impecable.  She was impoverished in terms of her social sphere and she never made any really close partner relationships that we know of, which might place her, again, in the schizoid or schizotypal range if, and this is an enormous if, we had evidence of strange sorts of thinking, funny ideas and stuff of that sort.  Her withdrawal is much more straightforwardly explained by a phobia.  Psychosis is unlikely.

     That's what I think, at any rate.

     What are your thoughts on the matter?
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I don't see what even justifies suggesting that she were "psychotic".   Don't we all have oddities?
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     Not me, Ess!

     I have "Features!"
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"After Great Pain"

By Docter John Cody,
who spent seven years
in research on her as
the subject.

My opening post in its latter part
merely summarized
his more diplomatic conclusions
in his epilogue.

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I today finished an article that viewed the same evidence
as being indicative of a Calvinist religionist experience;
a terrifying experience of the eternal at the expense of the
temporary self.

Either way then, Dickinson was the fractured vehicle
not the author of the poetry.

The psychologists actually have a name for this condition.


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