Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
Bob, first of all. thank you for actually addressing the question and making an effort to answer it. I appreciate that.
Initial press reports said that the N****r word had been used, and that Congressman Clearver had been spat upon. Others in his party verified those events. I have seen no reports of protestors in the area denying those events, though there may be some. You would think they would be featured prominently in the opposition press. Instead, what has been featured are reports of lack of video and sound recordings of the incident. Video and sound recordings are difficult to achieve in a spontaneous fashion, as any professional will tell you, depending mostly on chance.
Bob, I would think nothing of the kind. They are fewer things more distasteful than having to stand up and declare your innocence for something you haven't done. I don't care for it and I doubt you do, either, yet you seem to feel the people there should have. I don't call that a valid argument. As far as video and sound recordings being difficult to achieve in a spontaneous fashion......
Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., told a reporter that as he left the Cannon House Office Building with Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a leader of the civil rights era, some among the crowd chanted “the N-word, the N-word, 15 times.” Both Carson and Lewis are black, and Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones also said that it occurred.
Now we are not talking about a single, spontaneous act that the cameras and sound devices missed because they were not in position. We are talking about a CHANT, a prolongued chant that used the N word fifteen times. Do you really believe that could happen around a group of congressmen and not be captured on any video or sound device??? With the headline-seeking barracudas that comprise our news agencies, do you REALLY find that to be realistic? I would consider it almost impossible.
Evidently the Republican offering the reward has declined to pay out for the testimony of the Democrats keeping Congressman Cleaver company and who were on that spot.
As he should. Would you pay out a hundred grand to someone based on their word only, with nothing factual to back it up? I find that unlikely.
The facts are fairly clear. At your request, I backed up and reviewed them, and I presented them with references.
What you presented were the words of others, not factually backed up. I will not say the event didn't happen. In any group, be them democrats, republicans, hari krishnas or boy scouts, there will always be hotheads and rebels. It very well could have happened. All I am saying is there is nothing factual to back it up.
I continue to suggest that you would have me beg the question by asserting that the Congressman did something wrong. I say to you that I see no evidence that he did. Only more Republican flummery.
No, my question was not whether or not he did something wrong. My question was were his actions the actions of a congressman with the best interests of the country at heart. Did he and his people say anything that could produce something positive or something that would simply further fuel dissention and outrage...and, if so, what was their motive? You may respond by saying thay said it because it happened. Ok....the next time you feel your wife looks horrible in a new dress, I suggest you don't tell her. Even on a personal level,we often choke back truisms for the greater good of a relationship or situation. For congressmen, that same restraint should apply to anything that could negatively affect the good of the country. The congressman and his entourage did not seem to care that their words could enrage and encourage retaliation...with no positive benefits. My question to you was do you agree with that way of thinking? That's all.
Once again, I thank you for your reply. You put in effort and research, you stuck to the topic and you were honest and decent in your presentation. Conversations like this are beneficial to all concerned.